Skip navigation

community

1 2 Previous Next 29426 Views 22 Replies Latest reply: Jan 28, 2011 10:08 PM by tanyenkheng RSS
Currently Being Moderated

Dec 10, 2008 8:34 PM

How can we make the next generation consumer electronic products truly portable? Do away when wires and batteries!

Have anyone thought of how we can make the next generation consumer electronic products to be truly portable? No wires No batteries!! This is one of the big challenges in the design of low power consumer electronic products. To feature a electronic product to be portable, batteries are used to sustain the operation of the devices. What will happen after the batteries are drain off? Charge it up again at some fixed charging point? These questions are posed to challenge the designers of the next generation consumer electronic products. Wow with all those hassles of having to charge our devices at a fixed point, it is too troublesome. Does that means that the original idea of portablility has not been fulfilled?

 

Think about it and I welcome any comments and suggestions! Thank you very much.

Attributes

  • I think these devices are already here to an extent, only for small devices at the moment. We featured a energy harvester from ADL in the energy efficiency campaign, which is intended to power a sensor/MCU and a transmitting circuit to allow true remote sensing and reporting back to a central location. I know that this example is fixed for the moment, but I think improvements in this type of technology will allow true protability in the future. Supercapacitors should allow us to remove batteries when the technology matures. Link to ADL device below, there is also an article I'll try to post

     

    http://uk.farnell.com/jsp/search/browse.jsp?N=500006+1002545&Ntk=gensearch_001&Ntt=advanced+linear+devices&Ntx=

     

    I've also seen a vibration harvester that looks quite cool

     

    http://www.epn-online.com/page/35994/vibration-energy-harvesting-microgenerator.html

     

    And I think this is my favourite, a power generating floor

     

    http://www.japanfs.org/en/pages/026618.html

     

    And a video demonstration of the floor

     

    http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=r-Tz9Wa798E

  • The vibration harvester is definitely pretty cool, and the power generating floor is also an amazing technology, moreover, I think it is possible to achieve the "true portability" by using the wireless charge technology from Intel, althought it is not mature, I can see its bright prospect of electrical recharge applications, especially the portalbe devices recharge.

  • I hadn't heard of that technology before, but I have just read a bit about it. Seemingly it was first demonstrated by Tesla, but was dismissied as it was impossible to meter. Free electricity was in nobody's interest! I think the same problem stands, if you manage to fix the range (what use is being truly portable if you cannot move more than a couple of metres from the power source?) you will have to find a solution to the metering problem. Another problem I can see is that the power still has to be generated and is a bit inneficient, therefore it wouldn't fix the problem of electricity generating plants using too much of the world's resources, but magnify it.

  • Yes, that's right, the human body health is really a potential problem, and the issues mentioned by Alistair could be the primary obstructions on the way to end market. Now the wireless charge is like a "concept car", maybe someday it will contribute a bit to the truely portable devices.

  • While I was initially resistant to an integration of my mobile, pager, and palm pilot, I'd be lost today without my bberry.  In a sense, I think the promise of portable electronics is being realized.  Where once I had three devices, I now have one that wieghs less than the individual products.  One of the key reasons for considering an iPhone is that I could "integrate" my cell phone and iPod (music and pics)

     

    Now if we could just use kinetic energy, ambient light, or low power EM fields to power this highly integrated, I'd have the ideal portable device.

  • To a certain extent, the industry may actually not want to get rid of batteries. I remember a time when they first began producing solar calculators. I had a good one which would just not die. It needed a faint amount of light to work and it continued to work after removing the light source. It was marketed as a dual energy source. If everyone owned one of those, they would never need to buy a replacement until it was lost or really abused.

    If that technology was applied to our current generation efficient mobile phones and PDAs, we would save time and money on replacement batteries, chargers and phones.The retailers on the other hand would have a tougher problem pushing new products as the old ones will have a longer lifecycle.

    There are technologies out there, but it's a matter of who genuinely wants to improve the product technology to benefit the consumer. Your thoughts?

  • Getting rid of the wires and the batteries would go a long way certainly in lengthening the lifetime of a product. A lot of products are replaced either because the cost of a replacement battery is prohibitive (greater than buying a replacement) or that the connection for charging etc has failed rendering it useless. I have a couple of items where the durability of the battery pack, for example a scientific calculator with an LED display with NiCd batteries which is still going strong, has more or less outlived its technology whereas I had a phone where both the battery charging socket and battery have failed.

    There is some move to adopt charging by USB socket, which clears a lot of the problem about having a desk cluttered by a host of different chargers. One lead and charger would cover a multitude of devices and if the lead gets worn/damaged you can replace it. Wireless charging would be nice, but it'd have to be a lot more efficient or convienient. Trying to couple anything more than a few cm away isn't easy. I have some equipment with detachable batteries and a drop in charger that takes either the whole unit or the battery on its own - very convienient in my opinion.

  • Currently Being Moderated
    12. Mar 19, 2010 7:41 AM (in response to tanyenkheng)
    answer this topic

    That's good that people are able to get the loan and that opens up new chances.

  • One of my bugbears is the creep of some inappropriate technology, particularly batteries, into portable devices such as paint sprayers which are only used intermittantly and spend most of their time unused. When they are brought out of the back of the shed they have of course now have a battery that won't charge up and then the whole item gets replaced. Technology that can allow batteries to remain discharged for a long period of time and then be charged immediately before use would be better - possibly a supercapacitor application - but even then some of these applications may be better suited to primary batteries with a low self discharge rate that can readily be replaced.

    EU legislation covers the removal of batteries from devices at the end of their life, but some manufacturers do seem to discourage the replacement of failed battery packs in their products, I can mention a range of audio players that if the battery is disconnected to replace it seem to simply never boot back up from cold as a design feature - their charge for replacing the battery is disproportionate. Yes, the cost of a replacement battery for a mobile phone is more than obtaining a new phone.

    Other than simply playing for "look how many hours you can use X for" in devices with a fewer storage cycles, there does need to be input in developing technology to improve the number of charge/discharge cycles, recovery from deep discharge and self discharge rates. Not forgetting that low temperature uses are needed - do you really want your digital camera not to work on your skiing holiday because the battery was too cold?

  • I strongly agree with this post. Technology is as advance as one group is able to make money out of it. I've had those calculators and they won't EVER die. I always wonder why don't cell phones have the same technology. Granted, our cellphones do perform a greater number of task: transmitting data, voice (real time), accesing the web, the most important: IphoneApps Let's not forget about the fun, that's why people buy these devices, not so much for how useful they are but for how much cool (not so much useful) stuff they can do with it.

     

    For a regular, boring, reliable cellphone, I think the same technology used in these calculators, could do well. But, who would buy such a cellphone?

1 2 Previous Next

Related Content


Related Products
Discussions
  • Retrieving data ...

Bookmarked By (0)