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      • 345. Re: Eagle v8 licensing..   .
        macegr

        We're used to hardship. I don't think there's ever been a CAD package used by professionals made someone say "You know, this program is an absolute joy to use" (barring some heavy-duty sarcasm).

         

        These software packages are hard to use, and not necessarily by bad developer decisions, but due to the nature of the work that has to be done. It takes significant time to be functional in them, let alone start feeling like an expert. The program gets in the way of your work for a long time as you start to learn it.

         

        An earlier poster said they wouldn't use a cloud or internet-tethered program for serious work even if it was free...or even if the software company PAID them to use it. The reason for this is above. Our time is valuable, and it's a waste of precious weeks and months to learn how to use a program that could be taken away at any moment.

         

        It would be like designing a new product that depended on a part that was already in last-time-buy status. You just made sure that at some point in the near future you're going to have to redesign that product. A cloud-based or internet-tethered CAD package takes away the chance you'll have to spend months becoming skilled in a different CAD package someday, and turns it into a certainty.

        • 346. Re: Eagle v8 licensing...
          CadSoft Guest

          Yep, so true. And freezing for 5 hours because the nest thermostat also

          didn't control the heater anymore....

           

          Interesting times nowadays...

           

          Markus

           

          • 347. Re: Eagle v8 licensing.. .
            CadSoft Guest

            Markus Rudolf wrote on Thu, 02 March 2017 01:33

            Yep, so true. And freezing for 5 hours because the nest thermostat also

            didn't control the heater anymore....

             

            Interesting times nowadays...

             

            I'm starting to wonder if I'm part Luddite.  I have a swamp cooler on my

            house, I drive a 1988 Toyota 4x4 with a manual transmission, and I've taken

            my best photographs with a completely manual Nikkormat.

             

            On the other hand, I'm having solar panels installed, I've got a Raspberry

            Pi controlling the watering system and I love my Lumia 550XL...  LOL!

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            • 348. Re: Eagle v8 licensing...
              rbtx99

              Probably the outage was related to this...

               

               

              Amazon typo knocked websites offline - http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-39151932

              • 349. Re: Eagle v8 licensing...
                CadSoft Guest

                Amazon typo knocked websites offline - http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-39151932 (https://www.element14.com/community/external-link.jspa?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.bbc.co.uk%2Fnews%2Ftechnology-39151932)

                 

                Of course with THEM this is never going to happen.... Also EAGLE

                never is going to be subscription...

                 

                Markus

                 

                • 350. Re: Eagle v8 licensing...
                  Ed Robledo

                  Hi,

                  Just as reminder, EAGLE can work offline for up to 14 days.

                  Ed

                  • 351. Re: Eagle v8 licensing...
                    macegr

                    Mine will work offline until the day there are no more computers that are able to run or virtualize the last compatible Mac, Windows, or Linux operating system. For all of our sakes I hope that is more than 14 days in the future, but with asteroids you never know.

                    • 352. Re: Eagle v8 licensing...
                      CadSoft Guest

                      On 07.03.2017 18:23, Ed Robledo wrote:

                      Hi,

                      Just as reminder, EAGLE can work offline for up to 14 days.

                      Ed

                       

                      As a reminder, according to murphy's law the 14 day period is over

                      exactly in the moment the license server is down.

                       

                      Markus

                       

                       

                      • 353. Re: Eagle v8 licensing.. .
                        Joop14

                        Ed Robledo wrote on Tue, 07 March 2017 18:23

                        Hi,

                        Just as reminder, EAGLE can work offline for up to 14 days.

                        Ed

                         

                         

                        Just as reminder, EAGLE will work till autodesk decides to pull the plug.

                        Karel

                         

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                        • 354. Re: Eagle v8 licensing.. .
                          rbtx99

                          Ed Robledo wrote:

                           

                          Hi,

                          Just as reminder, EAGLE can work offline for up to 14 days.

                          Ed

                           

                          Just as reminder, we were told it would be perpetual license... and those 14 days can easily become 'connect every time' when Autodesk decides.

                          • 355. Re: Eagle v8 licensing...
                            burner

                            And they just did it. If you have student licence and Eagle 8.0.3 It wants internet connection each time when you start Eagle control panel. So example when you go to airplane or to bus what goes trough area where is no mobile connection, remember launch it first. When you are on air it is too late. I feel that is time to start study kicad.

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                            • 356. Re: Eagle v8 licensing...
                              rachaelp

                              Burner . wrote:

                               

                              And they just did it. If you have student licence and Eagle 8.0.3 It wants internet connection each time when you start Eagle control panel. So example when you go to airplane or to bus what goes trough area where is no mobile connection, remember launch it first. When you are on air it is too late. I feel that is time to start study kicad.

                              Really? If this is indeed true it would be disappointing but I think likely just a mistake to be corrected. I can't even see v8.0.3 available anywhere so maybe if they did release it they realised and pulled it already?

                              • 357. Re: Eagle v8 licensing...

                                This is false and I'm not sure where youre getting this information.  Have you tested this or you're just making assumptions? 

                                 

                                FWIW, it rolls over to freeware when you are outside of the 14-day window but the token persists for educational version when you are offline.  If you log in on an airplane, the token you have would continue to work.  In fact, the educational version is a premium license (which is never was in the past...that cost $$$ in the past).  The software *should* never stop working by virtue of going offline.

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                                • 358. Re: Eagle v8 licensing.. .
                                  Joop14

                                  Matt Berggren wrote on Wed, 08 March 2017 17:28

                                  *This is false and I'm not sure where youre getting this

                                  information.  Have you tested this or you're just making assumptions? 

                                  Is this your first post on the forum?  If so, perhaps you can test

                                  things before making unsubstantiated claims on the forums so we dont have

                                  misdirection here.  Thanks! *

                                   

                                   

                                  Hi Matt, if I remember well, you are the person who said that Eagle

                                  shouldn't go subscription.

                                  Were you just making an unsubstantiated claim? This is false

                                   

                                   

                                   

                                   

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                                  • 359. Re: Eagle v8 licensing.. .
                                    CadSoft Guest

                                    Matt Berggren wrote on Wed, 08 March 2017 09:28

                                    *This is false and I'm not sure where youre getting this information.

                                     

                                    So Matt, why do you go away for a while, then swoop in to make statements

                                    like this, then disappear again?  (Your last post here is from February

                                    24.)  You still haven't answered my questions about who runs these servers,

                                    and as far as I know, you still haven't given James a direct answer to his

                                    last message.  You seem to be quite selective in what you respond to.

                                     

                                    I'm starting to wonder if you're a douche in real life, since from my

                                    perspective, you're sure coming across as one here...

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