8 Replies Latest reply on Jun 30, 2017 6:21 AM by geralds

    Cannot move groups

    axnfell

      First off I am VERY new to Eagle, come from a Proteus background, but have been asked to put some of my schematics into Eagle format for others to work on.

       

      I am trying to follow some really basic tutorials on Eagle to get my head around it but have stumbled at the first video....

       

      How do you 'Move' and 'Group'?

       

      All I get is an annoying 'Boing' from the computer every time I try to select a group, and nothing is getting selected, I have looked at the help section and I should be able to select the group, then 'Ctrl+Right Click' to move the group, again all I get is a 'Boing' from the computer and nothing happens!

       

      I have tried just putting 2 resistors on the screen and I can move each one without any issues, but try to select both and I get a 'Boing'.

       

      This is becoming very annoying, especially as something this basic I should be able to sort out but I must be doing something wrong?

       

      Any help would be much appreciated

       

      Feeling stupid!

       

      James

        • Re: Cannot move groups
          c4m4ch0

          Hi, see the video below.

           

            • Re: Cannot move groups
              axnfell

              Is that REALLY the only way to move a load of parts in one go??????

               

              That is pathetic!

               

              I think I will tell the client to shove it, they can either except the schematics in Proteus or PADS, I really have never used such a piece of shit as this before...

                • Re: Cannot move groups
                  CadSoft Guest

                  James Sawle wrote on Thu, 09 March 2017 20:22

                  Is that REALLY the only way to move a load of parts in one go??????

                   

                   

                  I don't know what you are referring to (not gonna watch a video), but

                  moving a group of components is really very easy.  You group them, then

                  move them.  When doing the move, use the right mouse button instead of the

                  left.  That selects the group as opposed to the nearest part.

                   

                  The group action is also quite flexible.  You can drag a rectangle, or you

                  can click points of a polygon to define a arbitrary irregular shape.  The

                  latter is often useful in schematics after a bunch of components have

                  already been placed on the sheet.

                   

                  Quote:

                  That is pathetic!

                   

                  I think I will tell the client to shove it,

                   

                   

                  Grow up and loose the attitude.  Besides, this sort of over-stated rant

                  just makes you look bad, not the tool.  Again, moving a group is really

                  easy in Eagle.

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                    • Re: Cannot move groups
                      axnfell
                      I don't know what you are referring to (not gonna watch a video), but

                      moving a group of components is really very easy. You group them, then

                      move them. When doing the move, use the right mouse button instead of the

                      left. That selects the group as opposed to the nearest part.

                      We have tried this, I also got 2 of my colleagues to try as well just in case I was being very stupid, but we still could not get this to work at all.

                       

                      Don't think the client would be too happy if we told them to shove it, but after explaining the issues that we were having with Eagle they are sending 2 people down to train us for a week, hopefully this will iron out any problems that we have with the software, we dont mind as they are paying for the seats that we require for the software.

                       

                      As for the attitude issue, I understand, but we spend thousands each year on software, and we wont normally purchase any software that is not usable, at this moment we regard this software as unusable, as the client is offering training and software we will give it a go,

                        • Re: Cannot move groups
                          CadSoft Guest

                          Am 11.03.2017 um 04:06 schrieb James Sawle:

                          I don't know what you are referring to (not gonna watch a video), butmoving a group of components is really very easy. You group them, then

                          move them. When doing the move, use the right mouse button instead of the

                          left. That selects the group as opposed to the nearest part.

                          We have tried this, I also got 2 of my colleagues to try as well just in case I was being very stupid, but we still could not get this to work at all.

                           

                          Don't think the client would be too happy if we told them to shove it, but after explaining the issues that we were having with Eagle they are sending 2 people down to train us for a week, hopefully this will iron out any problems that we have with the software, we dont mind as they are paying for the seats that we require for the software.

                           

                          As for the attitude issue, I understand, but we spend thousands each year on software, and we wont normally purchase any software that is not usable, at this moment we regard this software as unusable, as the client is offering training and software we will give it a go,

                           

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                      • Re: Cannot move groups
                        geralds

                        Hi,

                        Please listen the 4min video i created for you:

                         

                        Basically, if you like insert a component - press the button "ADD" - the library will open then you can select your component.

                        Drag it in the listing and drop it in your schematic on the place where ever you like.

                        ... go so on...

                        If you have open also your PCB you can see that the component will inserted onto the outside of the "board" -> dimension for the routing area.

                        So then you can select move - button MOVE - select your component and move it.

                        Move group - button GROUP - with the mouse button draw a rectangle - "group area" - press the button MOVE - press the right mouse button to get the menu,

                        select MOVE GROUP and then move the group of your selected components where ever you like.

                        Similar works ROTATE.

                         

                        I like working with all mouse buttons:

                        left button: select/deselect - "drag/drop" with your "hand".

                        right button: a menu pops up for selecting the item you need

                        middle button: normal usage: moving the complete workspace of the schematic or PCB

                        mouse wheel: zoom in / zoom out the workspace

                        That are the absolut basics in the usage of Eagle, or also in an other CAD software.

                         

                        Best Regards

                        Gerald

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                    • Re: Cannot move groups
                      gvorster

                      So I'm new to Eagle and in 8.2.2 moving a group is to select the group and left-click and drag the group.

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                        • Re: Cannot move groups
                          rachaelp

                          guus vorsterman wrote on Sun, 25 June 2017 13:14

                          So I'm new to Eagle and in 8.2.2 moving a group is to select the group

                          and left-click and drag the group.

                           

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                          Hello,

                           

                          You are right, as of v8 there is a new way to be able to do grouping /

                          moving. Unfortunately this new functionality changes other things which

                          have a negative overall impact on productivity so almost all experienced

                          users will go turn this feature right back off again straight away in the

                          settings.

                           

                          Options -> Set... -> Misc Tab, uncheck then "Group Command Default On"

                          option.

                           

                          The original way is really simple:

                           

                          1. Select MOVE.

                          2. Select GROUP and then create either a rectangular group my dragging

                          around an area or an arbitrary shaped group by clicking points.

                          3. Ctrl + Right Click (Cmd on macOS) and the MOVE function previously

                          selected will be actioned on the selected group and you can drag it around

                          and place it.

                           

                          Now, having to go click on icons in the toolbar, thus taking your mouse

                          away from where you were wanting it in your design can slow you down, so

                          this is why almost all experienced users will have keyboard shortcuts set

                          up to initial MOVE, COPY, PASTE, GROUP, etc and if you have a mouse with

                          extra programmable buttons you can usually find ways to assign things to

                          these buttons so you don't even need two hands.

                           

                          Best Regards,

                           

                          Rachael

                           

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