6 Replies Latest reply on Dec 7, 2017 10:06 AM by bugrobotics

    CS component vault not working?

    drgdhorler

      Hi. Downloaded a 30 day evaluation version (2 layer, 300 pin) of CS today. Component and schematic creation was straightforward, but I cannot use the vault explorer function. File -> Vault Explorer gives a pop-up with a folder tree of IC component manufacturers only; not the more detailed view discussed in the tutorials. Is this function enabled in the evaluation version? Any elp on how the set-up and use Vault Explorer would be welcomes.

       

      Cheers

        • Re: CS component vault not working?

          Hi Greg, not sure why you think the evaluation is 2 layer 300 pin? You get the full software to try. If we have any misleading information on our site regarding CS pin/layer limitations then please do let me know so we can correct it.

           

          The Vault takes some getting used to as there can be an issue where far too many columns are displayed in the results making it a little tricky to use. My usual suggestion is to bring up the Vault window and then switch to the search tab (lower left). Sometimes, on first use, it seems necessary to search then switch to the Structure tab and back but generally the search tab does not increase the number of results columns whereas the structure tab view can.

           

          Maybe this is an excellent topic for alexsander_altium to produce a short video tutorial for the community.

            • Re: CS component vault not working?
              drgdhorler

              Peter, thanks for the reply. By pure hacking I managed to get the vault working; however, this together with your reply troubles me, as in my view this aspect of the software is unreliable.

               

              I've managed to create a footprint for a TSSOP8 device, not without niggles, however the main challenge I now face is how do you integrate a component schematic with a footprint. I cannot find any meaningful step by step instructions on how to do this. Futhermore it is unclear to me how the directory and file structures work.

               

               

              Gripe: It baffles me that tech companies insist on crowing about and focussing upon bells and whistles, such as the vault and 3d visualisation. I know modern software suites are complex tools,so to my mind It would be far more useful to focus on documenting the basics..well! In so doing engineers can quickly learn and evaluate tools. I concede that Altium CS is marginally more intuitive than Eagle, but the fact that I'm having to ask questions means that either the system is not as intuitive as it could be, that the dicumentation is not up to scratch or that I am not very bright. The truth lies somewhere in there!

               

              BTW, why do companies insist on developing their own lexicon, what ever happened to silkscreen and keepout, terms that are understood...what is a Top Overlay (Top silk?) and a courtyard bottom, 3d top: if Altium want to use their own terminology, then give us the definitions?

               

              I'm keen to pursue my evaluation of CS to a board design, so any help would be welcomed.

                • Re: CS component vault not working?

                  If very new to CircuitStudio then I would recommend watching the video tutorial series Getting Started with CircuitStudio: Video Tutorial Series plus the older series CircuitStudio Quick Start Webinar Series .

                   

                  Footprints are associated with a symbol through the schematic library editor. Bring up the property dialog using Home > Library > Component Properties and take a look at the Models section. Use Add... Footprint to associate one or more footprints with this symbol. The footprint is matched to a PCB library component by name so you would just need to make sure the names you use match.

                   

                  On a simple level you can either add libraries on a per-project basis (appearing as a file within the project) or on a global level File > System Preferences > Data Management > Installed Libraries.

                   

                  Don't forget that in addition to the Vault you can also download libraries from https://designcontent.live.altium.com/ .

                    • Re: CS component vault not working?
                      drgdhorler

                      Peter, I have watched the videos and read the docs and tried to associate footprint with schematic with no success.

                      Here is what I have and have been doing.

                       

                      1) I have created a footprint from scratch called TSSOP8.PcbLib (using File > New document > PCB Library) it is stored in mypath/Altium/MyLibs

                      2) TSSOP8.PcbLib is present in CS in the projects pane Proximity-1.PrjPcb>Libraries>PCB Library Documents>TSSOP8.PcbLib

                      3) I have created a schematic from scratch called lm2903.SchLib (using File > New document > Schematic Library) it is stored in mypath/Altium/MyLibs

                      4) lm2903.SchLib is present in CS in the projects pane Proximity-11.PrjPcb>Libraries>Schematic Library Documents>lm2903.SchLib

                       

                      If I highlight the lm2903.SchLib in the project pane, as shown in Fig 1Figure 1

                      Figure 1

                      Then use the Library to get to Component Properties, Figure 2

                       

                      Figure 2

                      Figure 2

                       

                      This brings up many windows, Figure 3 that seem to be in the right direction, for example Pin Map… seems to map component pins to Model Pins, see below. However, I am concerned on two fronts

                      1) Why is the name of the component PCBComponent_1 when I thought it was called TSSOP8?

                      2) How will I know when the footprint and schematic have been associated?

                       

                      Figure 3Figure 3

                       

                      As far as I can tell (from videos and the documentation), none of the detail I’ve presented above is present in the documentation or support. Please can you explain how I may proceed to associate a footprint and schematic and test that the association has been achieved successfully.

                       

                      Thanks Greg

                       

                      PS THIS MESSAGING EDITOR JUMPS TO THE TOP OF THE SCREEN SO YOU CaN'T SEE WHAT YOU'RE TYPING!