14 Replies Latest reply on Apr 29, 2019 5:32 PM by vmxnet4

    Professional and Industrial Users of Raspberry Pi

    e14phil

      Hi all!

       

      I would love to hear your thoughts on using the Raspberry Pi 3 B+ in Professional and Industrial Use Cases.

       

      The New Raspberry Pi 3 B+ has been intentionally built to make it easier/less expensive to be signed off with simplified Radio Module Conformity and the new PoE hat on its way, allowing for headless operation, Power over Ethernet and, Boot over ether net.

       

      Do you use your Raspberry Pi in an industrial use (IIoT)?

      Have you built the Raspberry Pi into a product? Was it easy to do?

      What are your thoughts on Raspberry Pi's efforts to reduce time and money making the RF area meet Modular certification?

      If you have not? What is deterring you?

       

      New RF  Conformity documentation:

      https://www.raspberrypi.org/documentation/hardware/raspberrypi/conformity.md 

       

       

      Interview with Ben and Roger

      Discussing the new board and benefits of the RF module and PoE.

      Eben Upton and Roger Thornton Interview: Raspberry Pi 3 Model B+

       

       

      PoE Hat (Pre-order available now):

      Raspberry Pi 3 Model B Plus (B+) PoE (Power Over Ethernet) Hat

      The official Power over Ethernet (PoE) add-on board for the Raspberry Pi 3 Model B+! Use this HAT to power a Raspberry Pi via an Ethernet cable, removing the need for a separate power supply, an ideal solution for embedded and IoT projects. For Raspberry Pi 3 Model B+ and onwards, an 802.3af compliant POE injector, switch, or router device is required (not included).

       

      • Power over Ethernet 802.3af compliant
      • Power over Ethernet Boot (PXE Boot)
      • Class 2 device
      • Fully isolate Switched-Mode Power Supply (SMPS)
      • 36-56V Input Voltage
      • 5V Output Voltage
      • Supplies up to 2.5A
      • Fan Control
      • Plug-and-play compatibility with Raspberry Pi 3 Model B+

       

      Best of all, it fits within the official Raspberry Pi Case!

        • Re: Professional and Industrial Users of Raspberry Pi
          shabaz

          Hi Phil!

           

          The PoE board will make it far more usable, because the Pi has always lacked a decent power connector. Now, finally a reliable connection can be made. Even if a wired connection is not essential, PoE can still be an effective way to get power to a device. Plus, an electrician isn't required to wire it in, so it can be cheaper to install. We use Pi's a lot for prototyping ideas. And I'm aware of firms producing devices which consist of a Pi internally, and are essentially software-based products, but they require somewhere to run, in specific locations with a certain price-point, and the Pi makes that possible. Here is an example: https://netbeez.net/product/

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            • Re: Professional and Industrial Users of Raspberry Pi
              e14phil

              Thats great Shabaz!  We are always interesting in hearding of people that use them for prototyping and even production.

              Netbeez seem pretty cool, they really could run their products via PoE.

              Do you have any other nameable examples that you know of?

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                • Re: Professional and Industrial Users of Raspberry Pi
                  shabaz

                  Unfortunately none that I could name (although I've suspected a few firms are using it in their products, but the've never specified it, for example with startups. Sometimes they like to hide the specifics).

                  IDEA London may be an organization worth reaching out to, since you're already working closely with Startupbootcamp. I believe Startupbootcamp will have close contacts with IDEA London to get you connected. They tend to work with 'next level' startups, so there is a good chance that some are using the Pi, or could benefit from it.

              • Re: Professional and Industrial Users of Raspberry Pi
                Raffaello Palandri

                Hi Phil,

                we, at PONF GmbH, are developing the PONF Multiback Open Camera: a camera that shoots digital and film - www.ponfcamera.com

                The camera has interchangeable backs:one for film, one for digital.

                The digital back is based on Raspberri PI 3, we are testing it with the Compute Module and now with the 3 B+. We use Sony full frame (36 and 24 MP) or APS-C (24 MP) sensors as image sensors.

                 

                We are in our early prototyping phase, and it's always interesting seeing advancements in the board !

                As the project is an Open Source one, it would be interesting having some feedback and cooperation in the development.

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                • Re: Professional and Industrial Users of Raspberry Pi
                  ninjatrent

                  Hi Phil,

                   

                  Great post. Do you have any information regarding when the Raspberry  Pi 3 B+ will be in stock at Newark?

                   

                  Trent

                    • Re: Professional and Industrial Users of Raspberry Pi
                      e14phil

                      Hey Trent,

                      I don't have a set date as they are being sent out in order of when they are ordered, pre-orders are currently open as we sold out of our first few batches very quickly.

                      (As always is the case with new Raspberry Pi!)

                      Phil

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                        • Re: Professional and Industrial Users of Raspberry Pi
                          michaelkellett

                          Hello Phil,

                           

                          The main thing about the RPi that puts one off using it in industrial or commercial applications is the perception that it is aimed at and marketed to the hobby and education market.

                           

                          To change that perception the following would be required:

                           

                          1) proper technical specification including BOM, schematic, operating temperature range, working environment  (humidity, vibration electrical etc) and reliability data.

                          2) long term availability commitment

                          3) predictability, of supply and ideally of development plans (Your own comment in the reply above rather states that case - product released but not actually purchasable.)

                          4) some way of building and developing a decent business relationship with the supplier, the RPi people don't put out good vibes in this respect (A business only distribution and support portal might be the answer.)

                           

                          Take a look at this page on the RPi website:

                           

                          https://www.raspberrypi.org/products/

                           

                          It's the RPI product page but it's so totally hobby orientated, like the bulk of their website - if you based a product on the RPI then you are betting the project (and quite possibly your company) on it - the RPI Org image just doesn't feel right for that.

                           

                          MK

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                      • Re: Professional and Industrial Users of Raspberry Pi
                        ipv1

                        Hi e14phil,

                        I am currently working on a project that makes use to the RPi for a number of reasons. The device is to be used in Highway Automation and Control Solutions and there are more than once solutions planned for this.

                        The idea is to have a board that can be programmed in C++ or even C# and since many other boards have pathetic support, the RPi was the obvious choice. We are currently employing it in a product on site and have a custom addon board that compliments the functionality. I cannot disclose a lot but I can say in most applications, wireless has not been required till date for us. PoE and Boot from ethernet is definitely a good feature and we have our own optical converter of sorts to allow for remote location connectivity.

                         

                        I image even with Industrial IoT, wireless connectivity would not be a feature a lot of my clients look for. The compute module is definitely the right way to go but the newer B+ may have an edge with the better thermal dissipation. I have had to use the RPi 1 in cases where the product was battery powered.

                         

                        Just my two cents worth.

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                        • Re: Professional and Industrial Users of Raspberry Pi
                          couchie

                          POE for an RPI is genius! This is a perfect fit for a project I'm working on! I have one on the way via UPS now and can't wait to dive in!

                          • Re: Professional and Industrial Users of Raspberry Pi
                            philduv

                            Hey Phil

                            At this point I am considering using it in an industrial mode for 10000+ different locations.

                            However I need to case it, and I am wondering the following:

                            Pi3B+ documentation says "it should not be covered"

                            The question is : is the board still FCC and CE compliant when used together with the Official pink&white Element14 case?

                            Thanks in advance for your answer. It is a key element of my selection process

                            Cheers

                            Phil

                            • Re: Professional and Industrial Users of Raspberry Pi
                              packetgeek

                              I think the one major shortcoming with the Raspberry Pi is its use of SD cards for storage.  I use a handful of Rasberry Pi's (misc. generations) in my home network and have noticed that SD cards last about 18 months (running 24x7) under heavy use.  I haven't yet tried the "boot from SSD" method yet so cannot make statements about that.  That said, the Raspberry Pi does make a good home automation controller (Node Red + Zigbee + Zwave) and alarm clock (RadioShark + Bluetooth speakers).

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                              • Re: Professional and Industrial Users of Raspberry Pi
                                vmxnet4

                                I use a 3/B+ with the “official” 7” MT display for implementation of new storage subsystems, compute nodes, and vSphere at customer sites.

                                 

                                Uses a combination of custom scripts that I wrote, along with PowerShell and PowerCLI for ARM.