41 Replies Latest reply on May 7, 2018 2:11 PM by thehwcave

    Hey e14 Members who YouTube

    kellyhensen

      I was wondering if any of you were talking about the current kerfuffle in the news surrounding youtube partner program changes.  Before drafting this note, i decided to search for youtube and see if there was already a conversation underway. 

       

      So I searched for youtube and the most recent poste i found was from gam3t3ch titled,  Youtube is the Devil which is ironic becase he posted it over 9 months ago.

       

      I digress.

       

      So members and Top Members I know many of you have channels (a short list is posted below).  I'm wondering what your thoughts are on what YouTube is doing to the small/just starting channels?  If you have a youtube channel - why did you start it up?  How does it feel to have your hopes and dreams of being the next PewDiePie snatched cruelly from your hands?

       

      Or do you just enjoy making videos?

       

      signed,

      just curious

       

      a short and very incomplete list:

      https://www.youtube.com/user/workshopshed Andy Clark - Workshopshed

       

      https://www.youtube.com/user/TheBreadboardca Peter Oakes - The Breadboard

       

      https://www.youtube.com/mayermakes - Clemens Mayer

       

      https://www.youtube.com/user/fvdbosch - Frederick Vandenbosch

       

      https://www.youtube.com/user/thewestcoasthippie Nico teWinkel

       

      https://www.youtube.com/user/enricomiglino/about Enrico Miglino

       

      https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCJ00i4FLwZG6IZmTGP0xIvg Ravi Butani

       

      https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC_CEc_vC8-i7gta98km5Qvg Charles Gantt

       

      https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCCJvsxwgHKCZqt9q7MM5QtA Cabe Atwell

       

      https://www.youtube.com/user/TheBiglesp Les Pounder

       

       

        • Re: Hey e14 Members who YouTube
          mcb1

          No videos for me.

           

          Mark

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              kellyhensen

              Hey Mark:

              you don't make videos?  or you don't like to watch videos?

                • Re: Hey e14 Members who YouTube
                  mcb1

                  I don't make videos, and I prefer that instructional videos don't exist.

                   

                  While they are great for some stuff, you can't cut and paste from them, you can't easily include code, and if you're trying to remember that instruction where you tweak x, it's much harder to find in a video.

                   

                  I tend to also find most presenters seem to like the sound of their own voice, and tend to be much longer than required.

                  I've watched the PSOC series and I've lost track of how much repeating or acknowledging how great the product is.

                   

                  Another issue that plagues many is the quality ... you either have extremely large file size or are left with struggling to see what's going on.

                   

                   

                  I'm aware that not every video falls into this category, but without careful production or post production, the excellent content can be lost in poor quality.

                   

                  Cheers

                  Mark

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              • Re: Hey e14 Members who YouTube
                gam3t3ch

                Ya I just posted in my updates about the new updates to youtube.  I have sat back and thought about quite a bit. I understand youtubes stand on it. It doesn't mean I I enjoy loosing 10 to 15 dollar's a month off the ad revenue every month.  BUT if 90% of all channels made under 2.50 in a month it makes sense it is good business practice.  If I was putting my ad out there I would want it to get results with the new formula I'm more inclined to advertise.  But doesn't mean I enjoy it like I stated.  I will certainly sub anyone that is on the list there as well as any others that post theirs up here.

                 

                Also I enjoy filming and editing and would continue to do it regardless of being paid. That's just a perk for me to be able to get new tools for filming.

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                  ntewinkel

                  I've been using YouTube mostly to share videos with others, rather than for the purpose of it being a channel on its own.

                   

                  I haven't actually checked the history of my channel for a while, so it was funny to look back and see it.

                   

                  But yes, it's unfortunate that they are changing it, as it reduces the chance of anyone ever getting a bonus through a short-lived viral video.

                  They already had a threshold of views needed, so I wonder why they upped it so far out of reach now.

                  "4,000 hours of watchtime within the past 12 months and 1,000 subscribers." is not something I expect to achieve anytime soon!

                   

                  I made a total of 67 cents last year, so losing that revenue stream is not going to impact me much

                   

                  On the bright side, a lot of YouTube videos will become a lot less annoying to watch now!

                   

                  -Nico

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                  • Re: Hey e14 Members who YouTube
                    Jan Cumps

                    I deleted my channel on the day I reached 1000 subscribers. I got a dispute with them on that very day and I don’t need disputes in my hobby.

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                    • Re: Hey e14 Members who YouTube
                      gam3t3ch

                      Also a shameless plug of my channel since I am not on the list lol

                       

                      https://www.youtube.com/gam3t3chelectronics

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                        Andy Clark (Workshopshed)

                        Like most I am just creating videos because I wanted to share something that was not easy to explain in just words and pictures.

                         

                        I'm not sure what I'll do without that £0.23 per annum my channel was bringing in.

                         

                        I suspect this move will cause some to swap to sponsorship rather than advertising which may in turn cause YouTube to charge for their services.

                         

                        Interesting times.

                        • Re: Hey e14 Members who YouTube
                          gsgill112

                          Hi,

                           

                          I do post youtube Videos and I love sharing with youtube. I had started long back and had quitted due to lack of response from the community. After an year of No youtube, I was going through my Email and I saw a new subscriber to my channel so I opened Google Analytics and found that there was couple of videos that people did Kinna enjoyed watching.

                           

                          So I  decided to structure my Channel better and that lead to more videos starting for previous month.There are few Videos lined up and will be released in a matter of this week (Hopefully).

                           

                          I also am trying to YouTube about Embedded Kits/ Hardware Reviews to solve the basic beginner question of Which Kit will fit which Application and what is that a maker i.e. An Artist, Lawyer, Doctor, Engineer or in-fact anyone would like to use. I also have planned Electronics/ Embedded Systems tutorials/ How Electronics Stuff Works for beginners in near future.

                           

                          My Channel : https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC98erU8wYeEA-VqmTA9etNw?view_as=subscriber

                           

                          I would request you all to please leave feedback and support me by Sharing, Suscribing and liking my videos.

                           

                          Regards,

                          GS Gill

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                            balearicdynamics

                            It seems your post has having a certain effect ... It'a a couple of days I am receiving subscriptions to my youtube channel from E14 members

                             

                            Enrico

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                              balearicdynamics

                              (entering in the discussions after a while of silence )

                               

                              IMHO videos are very useful to explain how something has been done, no matter if it includes moving parts or not. There is also a sort of psychological impact I think; self certification and demonstration that what we describe has been really done and works. In the specific context of electronics, making of etc. as we are involved here in E14 community it is very difficult to find something that has no movement at all! At leas a button, a LED, a light should be, if some current passes in our circuit.

                               

                              By the other side instead I have great difficulties to follow the video tutorials - I can recognize this a limit - I see the video as an instrument to illustrate what is, how does it works and the progress reached at a certain milestone in a project. At least this is the logic I follow making videos.

                               

                              As a possible suggestions, I can add the videos - except in some rare cases - should not be long than 3 minutes. If this time seems too short, think to a spot, telling a story and advertising a product in just 30 seconds or less.

                               

                              Enrico

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                              • Re: Hey e14 Members who YouTube
                                peteroakes

                                Wow. We're do I start.

                                These are all very interesting stories

                                 

                                Do I YouTube... yes indeed. Quite alot in fact but not close to some of the bigger channels like EEVBlog

                                 

                                I have about 23K subs and even when I was less than 10k I made about 300$ a month. Now I make the same... go figure. Just enough to cover the internet acess.

                                 

                                I never started the channel to make money though.  It was to help folks with trouble shooting and share some of my knowledge so I don't get into it for profit.

                                 

                                My videos are typically 30 to 60 mins long and very detailed.  I hate abreviated videos that show that something can be done but never enough on how.

                                 

                                I like running long going projects as Jan and othes will know but now I also get a few companies sending me cool stuff to review or use in my projects. In most cases there not valued enough to justify the time so it's good I don't do it for profit. It's a retirement hobby for me.

                                 

                                Ok. Gotta dash. I'll Continue this later

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                                • Re: Hey e14 Members who YouTube
                                  retrohellspawn

                                  YouTube can be a good source of information for various things; I learned how to make videos on YouTube, I learned how to use GIMP as an alternative to Photoshop from YouTube, how to build computers, how to disassemble various video-game consoles, and many other things! It depends on what you're trying to find on YouTube, but it can be, like any sources of info, either exactly what you're looking for or a waste of time. One of my college teachers actually posted his classes on YouTube by recording his desktop capture w/ a mic on his desk and demonstrating everything on a computer (since it was a coding logic class).

                                   

                                  Gotta say, I'm massively disappointed in YouTube as a platform these days though. I used to appreciate YouTube for their existence, but now they're just shoveling wastes of space like Logal Paul in your face.

                                   

                                  Shameless plug, you can find my channel here:

                                  https://www.youtube.com/retrohellspawn

                                  I do tutorials, let's plays, demonstrations, reviews, and theories.

                                  • Re: Hey e14 Members who YouTube
                                    sjmill01

                                    My son and I have the channel Raising Awesome.

                                     

                                    On the surface it is a Maker channel spanning carpentry, welding, PCB design, mech electronics, auto mechanics, music, engineering, etc.  However, its underlying theme is teaching life skills with life lessons to my son from age 9 to 19.  So, occasionally, we won't build anything but focus on a life event that we learned from.

                                     

                                    We start each main video with a Principle to live by.  These are various principles I have learned over the years that I want to bestow to my son.  The intent is to hit 365 principles although our pace is off to do so by the time he launches to the world.

                                     

                                    We did not monetize our site until curiosity got the best of me when we had a chance to do a guest video for EEVBlog.  I turned it on and found that you can make about $1 per 1000 views.  Within a week, YouTube sent the note that I would no longer be eligible for monetization.  I immediately turned it back off of my videos.  I thought I jinxed it for everyone.

                                     

                                    So, for me, the channel is to provide a chronicle of raising a child from 9 to 19 instilling awesome skills and life lessons and capturing it to video.  It serves as "home movies" and reference for him once he has launched to be his own man.  But we hope it serves as strength to tired parents at the end of the day to at least spend 8 minutes doing something truly unique with their kids to help set them apart from the emerging crowd.

                                     

                                    What keeps us on YouTube versus just private videos is comments from someone that says we helped them out such as in the video where we show how to fix a gear shifter back light with LED light strips.  This took a $600 dealer repair to about $10.

                                     

                                    If we ever do grow enough for monetization in the future, we'll probably turn on the ads primarily to turn it right back around for ads for the channel.  The long game however would be to sell a desk calendar aimed for kids and college students and perhaps a book - but I'm a horrible marketer so it probably won't happen.

                                     

                                    See ya',

                                    Sean

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                                      • Re: Hey e14 Members who YouTube
                                        gam3t3ch

                                        Ya you have to request the review, and then usually your ads will go back it happens a lot.  great job on the channel to all involved on it have watched a few off the channel.

                                          • Re: Hey e14 Members who YouTube
                                            Christopher Stanton

                                            YouTube recently changed being able to turn on monetization, you have to have 1,000 subscribers and 4,000 view hours in the past 12 months, else you can't turn it on.

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                                              • Re: Hey e14 Members who YouTube
                                                gam3t3ch

                                                Ya I think it takes effect tomorrow I thought.  Could be wrong but think that's what it was.  I enjoy making a hundred or so every year even that little bit helps me buy newer camera gear as I enjoy making video's so it looks like I will have to just use what I have.  It most certainly doesn't make me want to make less video's as realistically even if it wasn't there from the beginning I would still be making videos.  I find more people will probably be forwarding people to their websites since they will still be able to use adsense on there as well. So not a total loss.

                                          • Re: Hey e14 Members who YouTube
                                            gam3t3ch

                                            For those that do YouTube and don't meet the requirement now make sure to enable your account again then option 4 will give you your stats once you do so it will show something like this below, as you can see I got a while before I actually hit the target but the main thing is to get that enabled again on your account so when it happens you wont miss out on actually making something again.

                                             

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                                            • Re: Hey e14 Members who YouTube
                                              ajkatz83

                                              Hi Kelly:

                                               

                                              I do have a youtube channel. It was a touch of everything, like vlogging and things I was doing in my life. I was doing technical type videos, I did one series with my HF station that is still up there, but that was just about the extent of what I did. Yeah, YouTube is getting strange with how it's treating creators, everyone across the board is losing out on ad venue and it seems to be getting pretty censored out there. I enjoy making videos but on the technical side, it does take a lot of time and money to come up with them on my own and so it doesn't happen too often.

                                              • Re: Hey e14 Members who YouTube
                                                thehwcave

                                                Hi Kelly,

                                                I recently started a youtube channel, mostly to share experiences and knowledge on electronics. I don't care that none of my stuff will ever get viral so making any money through youtube is not an issue for me. As for content, I am sympathising with  mcb1 in that certain "how-to" vidoes would be far better in a document / blog format to allow cut&paste and reading at convenient pace (instead of continuously having to hit pause and rewind). That is one of the reasons why I joined element14 to be able to use whichever format works best for a topic.

                                                 

                                                Obligatory plug for my channel https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCuetPVsxXASwEfA6vYtsHTg

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                                                • Re: Hey e14 Members who YouTube
                                                  kas.lewis

                                                  Question to all the E14 members that tube,

                                                   

                                                  What camera do you use to capture displays. I'm trying to capture live video of two scopes but the screens are really not visible. If someone can share their setup it would be very helpful.

                                                   

                                                  Kas

                                                    • Re: Hey e14 Members who YouTube
                                                      thehwcave

                                                      I know what you mean. I normally use a Logitech 920 to do my YouTube videos, but it is very difficult to capture a scope, (RIGOL DS1054Z). It helps somewhat turning the brightness up on the scope, change to manual aperture control on the camera and of course the camera has to be on a tripod and aligned to the scope (no angle horizontal or vertical).  It also helps to darken the room.

                                                      Because this is all so troublesome to setup, I lately changed to DSRemote which is a free remote control software for the RIGOL scopes. It does a good job replicating the scope screen on a computer which I then screen-capture as video with voice over using vokoscreen (another free program). I am using Linux, but I guess these or similar are available for Windows too.

                                                      The biggest drawback of that method is that  you can't see any on-scope measurements other than the frequency counter. Also, at least on my version, if you start changing settings on the scope, the picture on DSRemote is always correct but the displayed settings, eg horizontal timebase are not updated. You must instead use the "knob" on DSRemote to do the change, which updates both the scope and the remote display. Only, that control is not very intuitive and I much prefer changing things on the scope directly.

                                                      So, there you  have my method. If I need to do lots of changes or use of cursors and measurements, I setup the camera even if that takes 30mins to get right. For simple things, displaying a waveform etc, I use DSRemote.

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                                                      sjmill01

                                                      Does your camera allow you to change to a mode that changes the frames per second captured?  A different FPS may capture better.

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