15 Replies Latest reply on Mar 26, 2020 12:05 PM by the-dubster

    COVID19-What's Going On in Your Community?

    sjmill01

      Curious to hear directly from folks around the world, what's the response in your community to the COVID19 crisis?

       

      Here is my status:

      • Just east of St. Louis Missouri in Illinois.  Population 30,000.
      • All schools closed
      • All restaurants closed with exception of curbside, online orders and fast food drive throughs
      • All small businesses not food or essentials related are closed
      • Must stay sheltered in place at home
      • Gas stations and grocery stores are still open
      • To drive around, you are to have a formal permit provided by your employer to print and put in your vehicle windshield or be going to a grocery store
      • Essential industry like refining has remote workers - site staffing is cut to minimum per Process Safety Management policy
      • We have had one case reported in the community, but several in St. Louis.  One death.
      • Underlying concern across the United States is not sufficient ICU beds and ventilators should we see a surge like Italy (who actually has a better bed/1000 residents ratio)

       

       

      See ya',

      Sean

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          michaelkellett

          In South West Scotland,

           

          • Schools closed (yesterday was last day) except for special needs children and kids of essential workers.
          • Universities also closed
          • Pubs, cafes, restaurants, clubs, gyms all closed (but not take-aways).
          • Over 70s advised to self isolate for next 2 weeks (expected to change to longer)
          • Work at home if you can
          • Shops near me recovering form panic buying - loo rolls available this morning.
          • Massive government effort in terms of paying 80% of laid off people's wages and all sorts of grants, tax let-offs for business - exact details not clear yet. Lots of other economic measures too.

           

          I'm not criticising the lack of perfect clarity - this is a huge demand on government and it's bound to take little while to sort all the details. I think I'll get some sort of grant to keep the business going but it's not quite clear how I get it yet.

           

          MK

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              balearicdynamics

              In Belgium easy to explain, Michael. Total lockdown and by yesterday 3 pm all borders are closed in and out excluding transports and few other things. The main airport is closed and here people seem almost disciplined. Different than Italy where all are crazy and the challenge is to avoid the controls, stay in parks, parties, music, and "movida". A few less in Spain where the situation is similar. It seems that in Gent where I live now there are not cases, at least for now.

              I have ordered a couple of days ago a component from Farnell Uk but I have not yet received the shipment notification. I supposed it will arrive Monday. In the meantime, I got a UPS notification from US (Chicago ) that something is coming here. The expected delivery time is as usual.

               

              Enrico

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                  gecoz

                  Enrico,

                   

                  Sure Italians don't like following rules (or should I say, each one follows their own set of rules), but I am following very closely the COVID-19 pandemic in Italy from the UK, both because my family is there and many of my close friends, all over Italy, and I can assure you that people are not going around like crazy, trying to avoid controls anymore.There is still a minority of people that are moving too much perhaps, but the vast majority are taking this pandemic seriously. Anyway, the statistics on the active cases and the deaths you see now are not due to the behaviour kept in the last couple weeks, and definitely not since the lock down. Unfortunately there has been a huge mismanagement of the situation at the very beginning, where the combination of far too few tests carried out and the lack of restrictions on movements, made it hard to track down the virus in the attempt to stop it from spreading. This led to the point they are now. Hopefully the contagion should peak in a week (perhaps 2, due to the massive movement of people following the lock down in the north). Let's hope so.

                   

                  Here in UK, so far, the Government has, in my opinion, failed to show proper leadership when it needed to, which in turn instilled the irrational/borderline panic behaviour in the public we are witnessing in the last week. I live in the North East England, and in the last week I haven't been able to find things like flour, pasta, cans of beans/vegetables at the supermarket, never mind toilet rolls. Never, in the 15 years I lived here, I have experienced that. Now, the Government seems to be more assertive and clear on its actions, so things are starting to improve. I just hope the experts are right, and all the measures taken so far have been rolled out at the right time.I do suspect, though, the response has been too slow so far, but I hope I'm wrong.

                   

                  Hopefully in a few months all will be back to normality. In the meanwhile, stay safe everyone!

                   

                  Fabio

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                  beacon_dave

                  Similar here down the road in North West England.

                   

                  - This last week of university teaching moved to on-line delivery.

                  - Most university staff now working from home, so mass effort to get people equipped for remote working.

                  - Supermarket panic buying getting worse ( they are now even panic buying tins of haggis ! ). Still no toilet rolls, lots of empty shelves - about half of my usual weekly shop was out of stock.

                  - Social distancing measures not proving popular with the younger generation - Police last night had to break up around 130x 14-18 year olds gathered in the local park.

                  - Roads are a lot quieter. Campus is like a ghost town.

                  - Not aware of any local confirmed cases of COVID-19 as yet.

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                  rstone

                  I'm in NE Texas, city of around 60,000.

                  So far we're about the same place as Sean, with the exception of not needing a permit to drive around. Most businesses are closing due to lack of people being out and about. We're having supply problems because of hoarding. We have 4 confirmed cases, with a possible 9 more. The only thing that's truly unsettling to me is how quiet it's become, and how greedy some people are.

                   

                  Good luck to all!

                   

                  Rick

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                    clem57

                    Here in Dallas and Fort Worth area, we have even cars keeping a social distance like the people in stores. This is kind of nice since normally people are acting irresponsible on the roads. Traffic is very light with gas getting cheaper by the day. I can see definite economic downturn. Other than groceries, very little else except drive through. Normal sit downs are closed. Weird but so are the times. Stay save!

                    Clem

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                      ntewinkel

                      Ours here in the Comox Valley, BC (pop. about 70k) is very similar, except I don't think anything is really enforced yet with the exception of larger gatherings.

                       

                      The numbers being reported are known to be very inaccurate - we know from hospital staff and area doctors that we have cases in the area, but Island Health does not seem to be reporting anything near that. Even so, we seem to be in good shape so far with numbers lower than the bigger centers.

                       

                      Most people here seem to be following the lead of the bigger centres that have lockdowns though, and voluntarily distancing before it becomes a bigger problem, regardless of our slow-to-act leadership.

                      Stores appear to be adjusting well, with most switching over to have some form of free delivery or at least shopping services for pick-up outside the door. The two purchases we had in the past week (one for groceries, picked up; and one for pet food delivered) were easy and the people helping us were genuinely appreciative that we were also being cautious. Stores are also taking precautions in how many people are allowed in at one time, extra sanitizing time, and some are taping markers on the floors to guide people for distances.

                       

                      The government is allowing immediate employment insurance to those out of work due to this virus, so that's a really good thing.

                       

                      We are being extra cautious because my wife's parents are nearly 80 now.

                       

                      I work from home, so my daily routine is much the same. The weekends will be a bit different, and shopping is less convenient. But all in all we're comfortable and healthy and being "stuck" here isn't really a hardship. We'll keep doing our part to help slow and hopefully stop the spread.

                      It's very stressful worrying about everyone and everything, but I know the world will make it through this too.

                       

                      Hope everyone is able to stay safe, and also comfortable, while all this is going on.

                       

                      -Nico

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                        clem57

                        I think this is a 911 type of event. We must be alert to a possible mutation after the numbers trail down. Pathogens are with us now and in the future. Social habits need updating!

                        Stay aware and safe,

                        Clem

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                            sjmill01

                            My crystal ball on future of pathogens in the United States:

                            • Our ratio of "ventilators and ICU beds per 1000 people" was caught on its heels.
                            • Without ICU beds and ventilators, our current politicians legacies will be attributed to the ones that created the death squad decision scenario - worst case example: 70+ year old smokers being pulled off ventilators for 20 year olds.
                            • We are having general industry help get our ventilator count up (Ford, GM, Tesla, GE).  We'll print money to get 'er dun'.
                            • Elective surgeries are delayed to later this year to free beds.
                            • We'll go full on with a shutdown of non essential activity to keep the ratio in check until the manufacturing takes off.
                            • As soon as the ventilator production math works out and the ICU beds are booked for the intended virus surge, it will be business as usual with a continued voluntary shelter in place for high risk individuals.
                            • It will be then on those high risk individuals to stay safe.  It's society a norm for one to die under hospital care - but not to die at home due to hospitals having no vacancy.
                            • Stocks will return in 18 months.
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                            tariq.ahmad

                            In Chicago,  I imagine its like a lot of other places.  I am lucky to live within walking distance of a Pharmacy and Grocery Store but outside of that people are staying in.  Pritzer, the governor, ordered Chicagoans on Friday to stay at home till April 7, however all essential businesses (food, grocery, pharmacies, banks, etc) will remain open.  For the last week we have worked remotely from our homes but this drives home the seriousness of the situation.

                             

                            I am hearing reports from St. Louis, where I'm from and most of my family lives, and it sounds similar to the situation here.  I caught a bit of the press conference on Friday where we were told we needed to stay home and appreciated the fact that they brought in doctors to explain the science of why they are doing what they are doing.  One of the doctors talked about two cities, St. Louis and Philadelphia, that had two different responses the last time something like this happened (before any of us were alive) and how both cities took very different tactics.  St. Louis shut down completely and Philadelphia didn't.  St. Louis recovered quicker than Philadelphia which was hit terribly.

                             

                            I think we all got to do our part to live smart and responsibly.  These are scary times but that doesn't mean we need to live in fear if we can help it.  Lots of things like reading, watching movies, and listening to music can be done from home.  We're all in this together and if we pull out it will be because we did it together.

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                              weiwei2

                              I at Penang, Malaysia. Penang is a state with 1.77 million population with electronics manufacturing as the main economy activity- we are pretty much the silicon valley of Malaysia. i stay at Bukit Mertajam [1], somewhat outskirt with 212k population. Bukit Mertajam is the country's 22nd biggest city by population [2]. We have country locked down with movement control order (MCO) since 18 March 2020. Prior to the locked down, there are a lot of last minutes work to do after the locked down itself has been announced causing me very hectic in the initial few days. Some multinational corporations (Jabil, Plexus...etc) are given special permission to continue manufacturing operations but never really announced properly in the newspaper. Some of the supporting industry supporting those MNCs are forced to continue working. however, majority of the population is locked down at home. Police, assisted by armed forces, are having roadblocks at major roads and highway entrance to restrict movement. Only vital industry is allowed to continue operating -> logistic, food, utility

                              as my work is not those under vital industry, i am working from home and i can't continue with some work i have with MNCs

                               

                              it looks like the number of covid19 victims has not yet peaked in my nation, and yesterday, the MCO is extended 2 weeks to 14 April 2020.

                               

                              time flies, it has been fully 8th day since i stay put at home, not even wander more than 10m from my gate. I have started to realize in fact working from home i pretty much can do most of my jobs. in fact it helps save traveling time (each day i spent like 2 hours traveling), saving petrol and saving the environment.

                               

                              one possible outcome, i envision, is company start to provide a few days wfh in the future in view of achieving equal and spending less nature resources.

                               

                              May the force be with all of us to battle this outbreak.

                               

                              References

                              [1] Bukit Mertajam => https://www.google.com/maps/?q=5.36301,100.4667

                              [2] https://worldpopulationreview.com/countries/malaysia-population/cities/

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                                  sjmill01

                                  Thanks for the informative replay.  It's amazing how the world is having such a similar response.  Probably couldn't have happened 10 years ago before every kid and grandmother had a small computer in there hand.

                                   

                                  I think this proves that if aliens invade from outer space, we will all get along.

                                   

                                  See ya',

                                  Sean

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                                    clem57

                                    weiwei2  wrote:

                                     

                                    ...

                                     

                                    it looks like the number of covid19 victims has not yet peaked in my nation, and yesterday, the MCO is extended 2 weeks to 14 April 2020.

                                     

                                    time flies, it has been fully 8th day since i stay put at home, not even wander more than 10m from my gate. I have started to realize in fact working from home i pretty much can do most of my jobs. in fact it helps save traveling time (each day i spent like 2 hours traveling), saving petrol and saving the environment.

                                     

                                    one possible outcome, i envision, is company start to provide a few days wfh in the future in view of achieving equal and spending less nature resources.

                                     

                                    May the force be with all of us to battle this outbreak.

                                     

                                    References

                                    [1] Bukit Mertajam => https://www.google.com/maps/?q=5.36301,100.4667

                                    [2] https://worldpopulationreview.com/countries/malaysia-population/cities/

                                    This explains how working remote help the environment by saving CO2 emissions. Also the roads are empty and not as much used (less road constructions. My question is why this takes a pandemic before we try these things? Thanks for sharing.

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                                    the-dubster

                                    Lincolnshire UK, fair few shops closed. Fuel stations / Coop & food stores / Chemist still open.

                                     

                                    My work still open (I teach RAF folks how to fix Typhoon), just finished 2 days in a room with 11 students (normally 12, I should be grateful).

                                     

                                    Thankfully we're only in if we're teaching a class, so we're on skeleton staff, handing over between phases to the next poor sod.

                                     

                                    We all have travel permits - locally produced - but there's still cars on the roads anyway, just a lot less.

                                     

                                    Social distancing being largely enforced, but being a rural area, some folks are 'hard of understanding' shall we say.

                                     

                                     

                                    On a positive note, NO ROADWORKS!!!   YAY!

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