New kid on the block - meet OLinuXino

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30. Re: New kid on the block - meet OLinuXino

raivisr Apr 23, 2012 1:31 PM (in response to morgaine)

Next planned OLinuXino iteration will be based on Allwinner A13, that is A10 stripped of some peripherals (like SATA) and comes in hobbyist friendly package, QFP. This is according to Olimex. There is only one problem with Allwinner CPUs, they lack any documentation whatsoever.
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31. Re: New kid on the block - meet OLinuXino

morgaine Apr 23, 2012 2:19 PM (in response to raivisr)

Wow, brilliant!

And yes, I have noticed the total absence of Allwinner datasheets in any of the languages I speak, which doesn't include Chinese.
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32. Re: New kid on the block - meet OLinuXino

raivisr Apr 23, 2012 2:19 PM (in response to morgaine)

According to well informed sources, there is none in Chinese either, only reference design and premade software. But as Allwinner CPU is based solely on ARM IPs, people hack away based on that information, so not everything is that bad
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33. Re: New kid on the block - meet OLinuXino

morgaine Apr 23, 2012 3:50 PM (in response to raivisr)

The zillion A10 and A13-based tablet manufacturers must have datasheets for the SoCs, surely? If they are all just cloning Allwinner's reference board, that would be .... bizarre.
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34. Re: New kid on the block - meet OLinuXino

raivisr Apr 23, 2012 3:54 PM (in response to morgaine)

read this - http://lists.phcomp.co.uk/pipermail/arm-netbook/2012-March/002881.html
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35. Re: New kid on the block - meet OLinuXino

morgaine Apr 23, 2012 4:02 PM (in response to raivisr)

Heh, I saw that post of lkcl's when I first discovered the Allwinner and chased up the links. Funny isn't it. Although I've never read anything like that before about Chinese tech manufacturing, I can well believe it.
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36. Re: New kid on the block - meet OLinuXino

raivisr Apr 23, 2012 4:04 PM (in response to morgaine)

I grew up in the USSR, I totally believe in what's written there
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37. Re: New kid on the block - meet OLinuXino

morgaine Apr 23, 2012 4:14 PM (in response to raivisr)

I wonder what ARM Holdings' view on it is. I've never seen an ARM license, but ARM licensees are probably contractually obliged to not do anything that could be construed as harming the brand. And in a small way, this does.

I rather doubt that ARM ever expected a licensee to treat documentation in such a cavalier manner because that's not done in the West, so it may well be that the ARM license says nothing at all about it.
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38. Re: New kid on the block - meet OLinuXino

raivisr Apr 23, 2012 10:38 PM (in response to morgaine)

I guess Allwinner never targeted western market, so ARM does not really care about what they do as long as they pay their royalties (or part of those) but having somebody from ARM here and sharing his/her point of view would be nice.
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39. Re: New kid on the block - meet OLinuXino

morgaine May 30, 2012 9:13 PM (in response to raivisr)

Another variation on the theme: http://www.engadget.com/2012/05/18/mk802-beats-cotton-candy-to-market/

Exec summary: "MK802", $74, 1.5GHz Allwinner A10 CPU, 512MB RAM, 4GB flash, HDMI, Android 4.0
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40. Re: New kid on the block - meet OLinuXino

raivisr May 31, 2012 12:49 AM (in response to raivisr)

MAXI version is in stock as of yesterday, MINI and MICRO waiting in queue
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41. Re: New kid on the block - meet OLinuXino

YT2095 May 31, 2012 5:12 AM (in response to raivisr)

any news on the porting over of DM Basic to this platform yet?
I plan on buying a few when it`s ported over
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42. Re: New kid on the block - meet OLinuXino

raivisr May 31, 2012 8:01 AM (in response to YT2095)

Not that I know of. But now that board is out in wild I think more people will get involved with it and eventually you will get what you want
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43. Re: New kid on the block - meet OLinuXino

YT2095 May 31, 2012 8:16 AM (in response to raivisr)

That would be fantastic! I have a Robot here, that would certainly benefit from having a 1 Million Bips front end
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44. Re: New kid on the block - meet OLinuXino

Drew Fustini May 31, 2012 11:31 AM (in response to raivisr)

Excellent! Thanks for the heads up. I just mailed them an order request. We live in good times for Linux SBC's
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