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InfiniiVision 1000 X-Series Oscilloscope DSOX1102G - Review

Scoring

Product Performed to Expectations: 6
Specifications were sufficient to design with: 5
Demo Software was of good quality: 7
Demo was easy to use: 7
Support materials were available: 3
The price to performance ratio was good: 7
TotalScore: 35 / 60
  • RoadTest: InfiniiVision 1000 X-Series Oscilloscope DSOX1102G
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  • Evaluation Type: Independent Products
  • Application you used the part in: Frequency Response Analysis of Filters
  • Was everything in the box required?: Yes - null
  • Comparable Products/Other parts you considered: null
  • What were the biggest problems encountered?: Lack of documentation. Buggy firmware?

  • Detailed Review:

    UPDATE

     

    Although it may not seem it, this RoadTest has been exhausting. It consisted of documenting, and proving to Keysight that there was a bug in the Frequency Response Analyzer (FRA) feature of the DSOX1102G. I never received a detailed explanation, but the bug was related to a time-delay in the system. The bug has been fixed in the latest firmware release and the issue I had with the configurability of the number of sample points being hard-coded has also been addressed. The number of points per decade of the analyzer can now be set between 10 and 50 in 10 point increments  I wonder if they read my review before making that decision? Although I was suppose to use the analyzer to measure the frequency response of a few filters, that never happened. Again, instead, I ended up documenting the failure of the analyzer to correctly determine the phase shift in a simple 10 kohm resistive divider. Previously I mentioned my surprise at the inability to configure the FRA, but I also mentioned that one cannot download the data from the FRA. You can save a screenshot of the response, but you can't seem to get a *.csv of the actual data. Pictures are nice, but engineers need data. To make this FRA fully functional they need to add the data download option, in my opinion. I'm sorry this review doesn't seem detailed enough; I admit it seems quite short, but the length of this review doesn't really reflect the work that went into it

     

    Here are the old and new FRA results where you can clearly see the phase glitch has been resolved:

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    Note, the scale for the phase measurement has changed because the glitch doesn't make the chart autoscale the upper limit to 60 degrees.

     

    Previously I gave this device a 19/60 points for the review. I will be increasing this number, but I haven't decided what the final value should be. I feel like a good effort was made to fix the problems, but ultimately if I had purchased this device I would have boxed it up and sent it back as soon as I discovered the FRA bugs and limitations. Again. this review focuses solely on the FRA ability of the scope, as I outlined below with my RoadTest application.

     

     

    Original Review (Which was published before completion)

     

    Let me start by saying, I mainly applied for this RoadTest because I wanted to test the Frequency Response Analyzer (FRA) of the new 1000X series scopes. My review is solely of that feature. In fact, my RoadTest application was only about 1 page long, and the focus was this single paragraph:

     

        “My idea for testing this unit is rather simple: I would like to have fun with the DSOX1102G by using its Frequency Response Analyzer to test both passive and active filters. I'm thinking some basic LR, CR, and LCR passive filters and a few active filters such as Butterworth and Chebyshev. I'd like to compare my hand measurements to the automated measurements. I have a few projects where I would utilize the oscilloscope as well, one of which is troubleshooting a continually rebooting Samsung cell phone. I'm trying to keep this application short enough such that you will see practical, achievable goals for this RoadTest. If you are concerned about the quality of the review, simply check the previous reviews I have completed from the list above.

     

    THIS REVIEW FOCUSES ON THE FRA FEATURE OF THE DSOX1000 SERIES

    Once I started using the FRA I soon realized a few things. Firstly, this feature of the 1000X is not only poorly documented, it’s practically undocumented. I had to email Keysight to get info and the response I got was:

     

        “First, you asked about available documentation.  There isn’t yet a lot of documentation specific to the DSOX1000’s FRA feature.  Additional application notes are coming.  For now, page 71 in the User’s Guide describes how to set the different parameters for the measurement, such as the input / output channels, amplitude, load setting, etc.”

     

    So, the documentation is coming. I read the manual before even applying for the RoadTest and I just assumed I missed some documentation, but no, that single page in the manual is all the documentation available for the FRA. I’ve reproduced that single page below:

     

     

     

    Fortunately, the scope itself shows you how to make the connections; that is, how to hook up the source, Channel 1, and Channel 2. A whole Scope Month video was dedicated to the FRA and it was even shown on the kick-off video. I know, because I watched all the videos. I wasn’t getting satisfactory results with my FRA, so the agent from Keysight suggested I hook up a resistive divider and measure its frequency response.

     

    Measuring a Resistive Divider

    I used the topology of Figure 1 for the resistive divider. I did not use a breadboard, instead I used screw terminals to connect the two resistors together as shown in Figure 2. Scope probes were set to 1x attenuation.

    Figure 1: Resistive Divider Setup. R1=R2=100k.

     

    Figure 2: Implementation of the Resistive Divider.

     

    Figure 3 shows the response from the FRA for the circuit of Figure 1 with R1=R2=100k.

     

    Figure 3: Frequency Response of the Resistive Divider. Gain is the blue curve and Phase is the Orangish curve.

     

     

    As always we ask "What do we expect for a result?". I expect the gain to be a flat - 3 dB - 6 dB (Voltage, not power), until at a higher frequency where some parasitic effects may cause some deviation. I have no idea how the gain curve ever got higher than 0dB in this test ... it's a passive circuit. Thank you jc2048 for pointing out I had reversed my input and output leads. Of Course! The probes may be influencing the result; I've contacted Keysight support. Let's assume the gain plot is my fault, and look into the phase response. I expect a flat line at 0 degrees for the phase until at higher frequencies where parasitics cause a deviation. The phase has two very wrong points.

     

    I took a video of the analyzer running and grabbed the waveforms from the two points of interest. Figure 4 and 5 show the waveforms for frequencies of 158 kHz and 400 kHz. Yellow is the input and green is the output. The measurements taken at 158 kHz and 400 kHz are clearly wrong. For 158 kHz, the reported phase shift is 80°, but it is clearly closer to 30°. At 400 kHz, the reported phase shift is -5.34°, but it is clearly closer to 45°.

     

    Figure 4: FRA waveforms for f=158 kHz. Reported phase is 80°. Visual inspection shows the phase is closer to 30°.

     

    Figure 5: FRA waveforms for f=398 kHz. Reported phase is -5.34°. Visual inspection shows the phase is closer to 45°.

     

    So, there's a bug or glitch occurring, which isn't a big deal IF they fix it. After seeing the above plots I thought I could go back and reduce the effect of the outliers by adjusting the frequency steps of the test. This was the worst part of the RoadTest because YOU CAN'T ADJUST ANYTHING EXCEPT THE AMPLITUDE FOR THIS TEST!!! Are you kidding me!?!?! After talking with Keysight, I found out that YOU HAVE TO PURCHASE THE NEXT MODEL UP to get the ability to change the frequency steps. Once again, are you kidding me? Don't made a big deal about the frequency analyzer if it doesn't have basic functionality like changing the frequency steps. Call it a script or something else, because it sure isn't an Analyzer. I am so disappointed, because I was really looking forward to this feature. To find out it's a crippled script being called an analyzer that you can only really use in a more expensive scope just outraged me, again, because Keysight made such a big deal about the feature. Note, again. The frequency step issue has been resolved with a firmware update.


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