55 Replies Latest reply on Mar 6, 2012 1:23 PM by TBASS

    Raspberry Pi Stock

    frednginger44

      Hi,

      Just wondering if people know when stocks will return on RS Components and Premier Farnell. I read an article on PC world and apparently it could be between 4 and 6 weeks? Is this true?

       

      Thanks for any responses!

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          LukeyBoii

          Hey im only 12 years old but i have bought the rasperberry pi B and i have already coded boot mnager and windows into it its so fun!      I skipped school today just to code some more i have my own website of which i made in notepad also!

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              INSINOGEN

              Not to call you a liar or anything, Luke, but getting Windows to work on this is a near enough impossibility.

              I believe that the Windows OS Platform does not support the ARM processor architecture - Only INTEL and AMD.

               

              And relating to the post - I seriously hope it won't take 6 - 8 weeks to get more! I want to start my project MUCH sooner than that :/

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                  Sean, I think you missed the big whopper.  It's not so much the difficulty of getting Windows to work, it's the difficulty of getting hold of a device that hasn't arrived in the UK yet.  The claims that initial stock have sold out amazingly quickly should not be interpreted as meaning there was some initial stock in the warehouse ready to ship to customers.

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                  grumpyoldgit

                  Luke. I think your nose is growing. Shame on you!

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                  Hi frednginger,

                   

                  I'm not aware of any specific timeframe, but we are working very closely with Raspberry Pi to ensure we can meet the demand as soon as possible. If you haven’t been able to pre-order, register your interest so we can let you know as soon as you can order again and keep you updated with the latest on availability. 


                  In the meantime, we hope that you find element14 Community a fun place to hangout and talk about Raspberry Pi with your fellow enthusiasts!

                   

                  Thanks!

                  Nicole, element14 Community Manager

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                      Oldtimer

                      Hi Nicole,

                      I am one of the many who failed to place an order on the first morning but have followed this group in the hope of learning something. Please note the following:-

                       

                      From Thomas Finch (to which you replied)  He says "When will stocks return to RS Components ............"  Can you tell me when RS Components ever had supplies?

                       

                      So 12yr old Luke has got a Raspberry Pi  and  "has  have already coded boot mnager and windows into it its so fun! "  and you allow this on the discussion board!!!

                       

                      Is this for real?

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                          Hi "oldtimer"  sorry you weren't able to get a Raspberry Pi the other day - I'm sure that's dissapointing, but I hope you're able to get in on the next round when they become available again!   If Luke has a Pi - he was very lucky to get one before most people.  Perhaps he has a prototype?  Luke, would you chime in to let us know where you got your Raspberry Pi, please? 

                           

                          Regarding if RS Components ever had supplies - I can't confirm as I don't work for RS - sorry about that.  I wish I knew the answer!

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                          mouseyb

                          hi nicole can you tell me why farnell changed there delivery date.as my delivery date was 26 march and now it 24 april. i order my ras pi at 8am on the 29 as it took me 2 hour to get in to order the morning of the launce date.

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                              Hi mouseyb - sorry you spent 2 hours trying to order your Raspberry Pi this week - I know that can be really frustrating.    I'm not sure why your delivery date changed - I'll touch base with our team here and see if I can find out what happened.  - Nicole

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                              UnrealCircuitDuke

                              @Nicole Fusz (Larson) I hate to burst your bubble but 90,000+ other people and I already registered our interest with raspberrypi.org.  I personally have no clue as to why they did not share their E-Mail list with you in the first place.  There are a few Rumours going around that those who ordered(pre-ordered) may have ordered more than 1 each.  I would suggest that you should only take pre-orders of one each to see what the actual demand is.  Maybe a small questionare of how many people would like in the future and any suggestions.

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                                  antxxxx

                                  I registered an interest on the raspberry pi website. As there was no check boxes saying they could share this information with other companies, I am glad they did not give this list to farnell or RS. If they did they may well have been in breach of data protection legislation.

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                                    Cylon

                                    here here on the raspberry pi mailing list. I was registered too.. so we shoudl be first in line having supported the community thus far.

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                                        grumpyoldgit

                                        That never was going to be the case. The mailing list was a device to mail people when there was news. Admitedly it failed but it never was supposed to be a queuing system and the foundation consistently refused to take pre-orders.

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                                            wocket

                                            Bob I have to agree.

                                            RS Australia had not even heard of the Rasberry Pi and though I was being smart. When I assuered the Sales person I was genuine there refered me to the tech support line. When I finally got through (After being dropped off 8 times, once I reached you are "1st in the queue") the tech support engineer told be RS had no record of any such device. Element13 Australis's Web page was shredded but I managed to click on the online chat icon and get a very helpful gent whi both knew about the "PI", gave men a prioce and told be to call if I could not get the order page up. (Did so and am on the wating list) I dont know what all the fuss is about, whenever our Airlines or radio stations over here have specials or compections Wen servers crap abnd telephone exchanges die !

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                                          Colin Barnard

                                          Privacy problems, especially with EU/UK law on such things?

                                           

                                          They'd have had to email everyone asking permission I would think, and with laws on privacy varying in different jurisdictions (even in the EU) that would have been a headache.

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                                          glynisd1

                                          I understand that therre has been huge demand for the Pi but, along with many others, I expressed interest through Pi's own site last year and feel quite let down - it's as if we've been brushed aside by the tide of media hype. Petulent I know but I'm just being honest. Having got that off my chest, I appreciate it isn't the fault of Element14.

                                           

                                          The main reason I have followed the progress of the Raspberry Pi for all this time is that I could see the potential as a teaching tool. I teach computing to 16-19 year olds (technical support and developers) and wanted to purchase class sets for my students to use. Correct me if I'm wrong but, I understood that teaching in schools and colleges was one of the main reasons for developing them? It appears that most of the stocks have been sold in a media stampede in single units. So what about schools and colleges? Is there a separate arena for those of us in education to buy Pis for teaching? With the government push for young people to develop skills such as programming and app development, I would have thought that some priority would have been given to education.

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                                              grumpyoldgit

                                              Are you sure you have been following this?

                                              This first release is aimed at geeks and nerds. The Pi has no casing, there is little or no documentation and even the people producing the operating systems are just about one page ahead of the rest of us.

                                              The idea is that developers will have a really good thrash at working out what the Pi can do, producing, documentation, guides, etc, so that later in the year a proper education release can be made.

                                              i know the Pi site is down at the moment but when it is back have a look on the forum at the education section.

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                                                  glynisd1

                                                  I have been following but I don't recall reading about geeks and nerds being the primary target for sales... But then I have focussed on reading the blurb about schools and education which, as I said, was the reason behind the development. Being something of a geek myself, I do understand the desire to get my hands on a new "toy" and then talk enthusiastically about what we've done with it, but there's a shortage of young programmers out there and we desperately need to get them started on the road to employment in engineering and technology. After all, the future of these industries is, in my opinion more important than our hobbies. Having said that, I do take your point about enthusiasts using the the first run of Pis to develop the technology. It may have been a good idea to reserve some so  that teachers of technology could have experimented a little before buying them for the classroom. Of course I have a significant bias in this area but then the future of industry is important.

                                                   

                                                  These are just my thoughts and opinions. Feel free to disagree or agree - contructive discussion is good .

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                                                      grumpyoldgit

                                                      The Pi site and forum is up again so you can go and have a look. As initial stocks are limited the need was for the developer/hobbyist/enthusiast/educational community to get their hands on the Pi rather than the intended end user, the pupil. For months they have been trying to get the media interested and been trying to drum up interest. The genie is, however, now out of the bag, and in recent weeks they have been firefighting just to keep their heads above water. From a small project aimed at British schools, there is now interest from all over the world, which is great, but will inevitably make supply an issue in the short term.

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                                                          GreenYamo

                                                          Agreed, I don't think it took the powers of psychic Sally to see that this was going to be big. By their own admission, the mailing list had 100,00 subscribers, many of which it would appear weren't mailed anyway, because it takes a week to personalise that number of mails (Really?). I have been following the foundation for several months now and on several occasions, naysayers about their model were assured that 'they were not business noobs'. I don't think this launch and the stock problems can be taken as an unqualified success, so perhaps the naysayers were not entirely wrong.

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                                                        TBASS

                                                        Please can you remove me from this discussion so i no longer get emails

                                                         

                                                        thank you

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                                                        John Beetem

                                                        Even though www.raspberrypi.org is currently suspended, you can get a lot of information about educational plans at the Wiki: http://elinux.org/RaspberryPiBoard and http://elinux.org/Rpi_Education.  This is mostly work in progress and work planned, but there is a lot of enthusiasm and motivation for educational applications.

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                                                      TBASS

                                                      Just Got an emeil from RS saying theye r doin a first come first serve thing. Says will contact back wuthin 7 days

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                                                        ericdockum

                                                        I visited the Corby base of RS yesterday.  I live 9 miles from there and 35 from Cambridge.  I was told by the staff there, after they had  "checked upstairs" what to say:

                                                         

                                                        1) RS never had any stock.

                                                        2) RS have therefore not shipped any to anyone.

                                                        3) If you have filled in the form on the RS website you should get an email in 5 working days informing you of the situation. 

                                                        4) They expect to be shipping some "this month".  As this was 1st March I was not impressed.

                                                         

                                                         

                                                        Personally I am not impressed that the Pi website is still showing essentially the same information that was there 06:00 Wedneesday, although they have obviouslybeen in and tweaked it to include Element 14 in the Farnell link at the bottom of the page.

                                                         

                                                        I feel they should have a update on the site explaining what is going on.  And what the plan is!

                                                         

                                                        Also not impressed by the RS corporate site news item titled:" RS Components responds to huge customer demand for Raspberry Pi"  ----  truth is the response includes site crashing, having no stock, not shipping anything,  not informing people. 

                                                         

                                                        BTW, I had registered an interest months ago on the Raspberry Pi site, and didn't even get the courtesy of the email that was supposed to be sent!  Seems also those that registered months ago via the Pi site are just in the mix with all the late comers who piled in to the RS site.

                                                         

                                                        Great british engineering, but then...............

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                                                            grumpyoldgit

                                                            Neither RS or Farnell have stock. I thought that was clear from all the press releases over the last couple of days. The Pis are still on their way from China. The only difference is that Farnell is taking concrete orders while RS are asking people for their details and will contact them shortly. A bit frustrating all round but there is no reason to suppose that either company will get a Pi to you any sooner. I registered with RS soon after 6:00am on 29th and got a generic confirmation from them yesterday.

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                                                                ericdockum

                                                                Well you are doing better than me then.

                                                                 

                                                                I registered months ago with PI and got no email.  Prior to Wednesday 6am was the story that it was only pre ordering?  Not clear at all, just teasing posts on a website.

                                                                I have registered via RS and got nothing other than acnowledgement I had registered.

                                                                 

                                                                My son's DT project, designed around the Pi, which at the time of design was expected end 2011, will be submitted with a Intel inside sticker in the next few days.

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                                                                    grumpyoldgit

                                                                    I think it is fair to say that many of the people who registered on the Raspberry Pi site did not get an email, myself included. It would have thought it was clear that they just got swamped in the end. They are a charity and have no staff as they all have full-time jobs, except Liz, who is an unpaid volunteer. In the end the infrastructure could not cope under the strain and they have been frantically been trying to keep their heads above water for a few weeks now. The server certainly could not cope with the demands and constant timeouts have been a feature. What started as a small charitable project has turned into a monster. RaspBerry Pi has been trending on Twitter, it is on the radio, TV, newspapers, etc and I gather perhaps over a million people have now expressed an interest globally. I would imagine that the team are shellshocked and is currently planning how to upsize the organisation to cope with the demand.

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                                                                        andycbrown

                                                                        Why companies go for pre-ordering, when the reality is that they've not got anything to sell while the product is in a container somewhere between here and China, I'll never understand. It's bound to lead to frustration and, nowdays, endless emails from fed up customers. it reminds me of the halcyon days of Sinclair. I waited 6 months for my QL and when it did arrive half the gummins were hanging out the back... Those were the days (wistful sigh)...

                                                                         

                                                                        I'd love a Raspberry Pi, but I'll buy one when someone actually has one to sell me.

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                                                                            rurwin

                                                                            The factory in China let them down. I think in the end there was so much in progress that they could not move the launch date.

                                                                             

                                                                            It's reminding me of ordering my Acorn Atom as well.

                                                                             

                                                                            I wonder what Acorn or Sinclair would have done if they had orders for a million units within two days of the launch.

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                                                                                Fossks

                                                                                Richard,

                                                                                     I don't believe that the factory in China let them down.  The foundation stated long in advance that the first order would be for only 10,000 units and that these first units would be somehwat of a first-come, first-served sales.  The foundation also said that the would already be getting the next orders built while the first were being delivered.

                                                                                     I guess the only mistakes that were made were related to not doing any contingency planning.  Firstly, the foundation said that they wouldn't take any money without actually having stock in their hands.  However on launch day it seems that the original 10,000 were still somewhere between China and the UK.  I don't think that the launch should have occurred until Farnell and RS actually had their share (what it was, like 5,000 each) sitting on their warehouse shelves with staff and infrastructure in place to take orders.  Secondly, did the teams at RS and Farnell really look to see if their current network was ready to handle an international onslaught?  I think not.  RS doesn't really have a direct to consumer setup and their international partner/resellers (at least in Canada) don't have any clue about the R-Pi.  Farnell's website doesn't even have clear links for their resellers in North America.  You have to had known that Newark is their team on the other side of the pond.  Thirdly, the teams at RS/Farnell and the foundation are all smart people.  They are high-tech gurus with years of technical, marketing and financial experience.  Being told that they couldn't have foreseen the demand or couldn't have the servers in place to deal with the traffic is really not acceptable.  The fact the "raspberrypi.org" moved to a static site proved that at least some thought was given to traffic issues.

                                                                                    In the end I hope at least that from a manufacturing point of view that there were contigency discussions as to what the capacity of the manufacturer is.  I personally want to order more R-Pi's in the future and really don't want to wait months to get them.

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                                                                                  notabusiness

                                                                                  The factory in China let them down. I think in the end there was so much in progress that they could not move the launch date.

                                                                                   

                                                                                  Sorry, but that would have cost them two phone calls. One to RS, another to Farnell, calling it off. And I don't think that neither Farnell or RS would have incured any cost from postponing the launch date. Both were apparently not prepared at all for the launch.

                                                                                   

                                                                                  And then they could have retracted their statement on their website about that big upcomming event, and that would have been it. I mean, they are working on this for six years. A few more weeks until the ship sailed into the harbor would have been nothing.

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                                                                                robertmac01

                                                                                I'm another one that was registered on the Raspberry Pi site and didn't get the expected email from them. The first I knew about anything happening was when I saw the news on Yahoo that the website had gone down. By that time it was probably turning in to a feeding frenzy for all the news media. It makes me wonder how many of the people that have expressed an interest in RPi, since then, will actually buy one in the end. In the meantime the people who were genuinely interested - before it became a worldwide news headline - have effectively been pushed to the back of the queue. I would certainly be willing to pay for one in advance, to ensure that I got one as soon as possible, and not be slowed down by all the people that have jumped on this latest bandwagon.

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                                                                                  Elementary

                                                                                  I too was eagerly waiting at 0600 but for two hours all I got was blankish screens. It was a shock to find that the work had been farmed out to Farnel and RS and my immediate thought was - that'l double the price for a start. If Rpi are still making a small profit how much are the distibutors getting - judging by their normal prices a one off item is marked up 50-100%.

                                                                                  Its frustrating but the product is good and worth all this hassle (to me anyway). I would pay this much for a computer periferal with just the video capability, never mind a built in processor etc - this was going out (originally) for the price of an arduino. Will any more of those (arduinos) get sold?

                                                                                  Think, one day you'l be able to bounce you kids on your knee and say - 'did I ever tell you about the Rpi debacle?'  arr them were the days.

                                                                                  I think these will find their way into commercial products just because of the display abilities for the price, and wont be surprised to see clones etc proliferating. After a few million have been sold and they are still in demand we'll see the ipad/ iphone lookalike scenario; everyone jumping on the bandwagon.

                                                                                  Ah well, so far I've only been able to register an interest - I did get an e-mail with a button to order but that just took me to the register screen.

                                                                                  By the way, where are Liz and the message board - perhaps they're keeping their heads down till Rpi's actually materialise.

                                                                                  What we need is a clear announcement of the ACTUAL situation so we can all get on with our lives and patiently await our turn - its all the speculation which has given this whole venture a tacky feel.

                                                                                   

                                                                                  Ah thats better............

                                                                                  Dave

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                                                                                      kb12

                                                                                      Elementary said: "After a few million have been sold and they are still in demand we'll see the ipad/ iphone lookalike scenario; everyone jumping on the bandwagon."

                                                                                       

                                                                                      Dude, what you described already exist, they are called Android Tablets and Smartphones. LOL

                                                                                       

                                                                                      The Raspberry Pi, in fact, is basically nearly simply the guts of an Android Tablet.

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                                                                                  aSheepie

                                                                                  I think Farnell have handled this a lot better than RS - at least there is some idea that you've placed a pre-order, or that they've stopped taking them, rather than being told by RS "thank you for your interest, we'll get back to you at some point".

                                                                                   

                                                                                  I rather got the impression that with RS, they will notify you when they have stock, then it's first-come-first-served so I think (if I'm right) they will get another feeding-frenzy on their site, and not even a fair one, if those that registered first have to fight it out amongst everyone else to get their order in.

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                                                                                stuartlea1

                                                                                Designing a project around a new platform that has yet to ship will be a hard lesson in the realities of life. You roll the dice and some times you lose.

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                                                                                  Adriann

                                                                                  I think you are being too harsh on them. Raspberry in the last weeks got a huge attention from the media, maybe this scrambled(big time) it's production numbers?

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                                                                                    Jancis

                                                                                    I also never received any e-mail. this is kind of sad, i was following r-pi project since november and had hopes that i'd be able to finally get it. no dice, rs had confusing "show interest" page and i didn't fill it because r-pi twitter said "If you're only seeing "register an interest" on RS's site, you're on the wrong page.". unfair and uncool

                                                                                    hope mass production will start soon.

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                                                                                      John Beetem

                                                                                      Lots of people didn't get the e-mail.  IIRC, RasPi said the list was around 100K people so they sent e-mail out in batches to prevent server overload.  One theory is that even then some e-mail servers saw so much e-mail from a single source that they assumed it was spam and discarded it or tagged it as spam.  Some recipients who thought they hadn't received the e-mail did find it buried in their spam folders, others never got it at all.

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                                                                                        LeighdePaor

                                                                                        I for one will be happy just to get a hold of such a fledgling geek product when it arrives.

                                                                                        Yes I was wondering why I got no email but as has been pointed out here I really don't think the engineers concerned were prepared for this unprecedented level of interest from day 1 of launch of a product which doesn;t even have a case available for it yet!

                                                                                         

                                                                                        Great work RPi foundation keep it up, I expect many earlier "buzz" catchers will find that there will be a considerable amount of work required to get this device to do much.

                                                                                         

                                                                                        The reason embedded systems boards cost so much is due to the low numerical demand for product - these are specialised products not normally sold as commodities.

                                                                                         

                                                                                        In relation to Windows on RPi it may indeed be possible to get Windows CE running on it as the ARM platform is supported and perhaps ReactOS (Windows NT clone) may also be recompiled for ARM but full Microsoft Windows does not support this CPU platform.

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                                                                                            morgaine

                                                                                            I think a fair assessment is that "Raspberry Pi Foundation don't do email".  They accepted registrations to their mailing list, but the vast vast vast majority of subscribers have never got a single email back.  There have been lots of complaints about that on the blog.

                                                                                             

                                                                                            It's pretty odd because email is such a lightweight service, much lighter than their blog and forum.  It would have stood up well to the rigors of launch day.  A single Linux box can easily handle mailing lists of hundreds of thousands of subscribers and a high volume of postings.

                                                                                             

                                                                                            Maybe their Internet sysadmin simply doesn't like email.  Some people really think that Web == Internet and that there's nothing else worthwhile, particularly if they're relatively new.

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                                                                                                Dario2rnr

                                                                                                O.K.....Allow the free market to dictate the price of the Rasb Pi....If the foundation puts all profits back into production, reasonably priced Pi's will soon be available. Just think people!  The foundation is using Obamanomics in their production philosophy! Gues what? It doesn't work!!!!! All the good intentions in the world fail if you ignore Econ101.

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                                                                                                    Dario2rnr

                                                                                                    I just ordered mine! I got the email inviting me to order from Newark. I paid for it, and now I'm waiting excitedly. However, it's still too early to celebrate. About three months ago I registered interest in the Pi with the foundation, and I did get the Email telling me they were available, but I read it too late to get into the initial action. Then I registered interest with Newark about three days ago,  and Bingo! Still no ETA, tho.

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                                                                                                davebodger

                                                                                                I just pre-ordered a few minutes ago on the Farnell site and was quoted a supplier lead time of 58 days - so that's the timeframe we are looking at I guess.

                                                                                                Two months basically.

                                                                                                Might get them around the beginning of May?

                                                                                                I live in hope.

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                                                                                                  zen13966@zen.co.uk

                                                                                                  I'm happy to wait for my RPi though I agree with many of the comments here.  It would be nice, and make the delays easier to live with if only we knew a little more!  For my part, I am worried about the availability of preloaded SD cards and the Gertboard.  The last I heard was that only 500 to 1000 Gertboards were contemplated for the first batch.  In view of the level of interest for the RPi this would seem to be woefully inadequate.