I tried out a 'mock roadtest application' on my PC and the instructions are clear and straight forward. The only minor point was I had to hold CTRL + click the link (Windows 10 + Mozilla Firefox) to get it to work - but everyone knows that don't they?
Sounds great Randall!
It is the worth that submitters spend some more time on thinking and writing a more detailed scenario on what they are enrolling...
Thinking to this last resolution and some kind of quasi-null roadtests, maybe that many of them have not so clear what it is really. Ok, it's silly as there are plenty of documents etc. but in this way at least they should face to what it is, a short "entry exam" is not a bad idea
Hi Randall rscasny ,
During writing the application for the PicoScope_5444DMSO roadtest there are problems with the form fields.
I sent this information via email as well. Hopefully that is not a problem for me.
There are missing two text fields.
This problem was also last year, or maybe some browser cannot display correctly.
I use normally the IE11.
Maybe this can appear after saving as draft.
It's great that you're making people consider their application more carefully and put a little more thought in. I'm sure that will help screen out some of the poor quality applications.
However, I think that the prominent promotion of winning the FREE product attracts the sort of people who might be persuaded to spend some time filling out an application properly, but then feel they now have their FREE product and don't have to do the important bit afterwards which is the road test. It's a trickier problem to solve, but I think "FREE" will get you more applicants when perhaps you would be better served by fewer but better applicants.
UPDATE: I just realized that I'm going over stuff we've previously discussed at length. Let's not drag this update off in that direction. Sorry.
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As a frequent applicant to the Road Test program I appreciate the quality control measures you are implementing on the intake funnel. I think the changes you are implementing will deflect applicants that still hold the belief that Road Test is a lottery. Your changes will also deter those that have no intention of developing a complete test plan, and furthermore may guide the efforts of those considering a comprehensive plan, but in need of a prescriptive framework.
It seems to me that the quality of Road Test reviews, especially for higher valued items, is improving, but not necessarily because of higher quality applications. What I sense, but have not verified through investigation, is that the field of Road Test reviewers is consolidating around a group of reliable, talented, and prolific members. I'm not sure this is the case for dev kits and tools, but I feel it may be true for test equipment. However, in the list of recently completed Road Tests, new names stand out among familiar names. This should encourage new members to take your advice and put in the effort to compose a well considered and well written application. The probability of being selected for a Road Test is directly proportional to the quality of your application.
Of all the skills I brought to my career, or developed along the way, writing clearly, factually, and persuasively has had the most impact on moving me ahead.
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I skimmed through all the applications for current roadtests. Only 25% are answering the 5 questions. From my point of view, this means any decent application has a great chance of winning because I am screening out people now who do not submit a complete application.
Up coming roadtests:
a DMM from Keithley
an Arduino engineering Kit (worth ~200 Us)
an NXP rapid Iot prototyping kit
2 NFC kits
some Pansonic BT and Wifi kits
RoadTest Program Manager
The formulation of question b) is in principle very simple.
However, answering this question can sometimes be very complex, especially if you get a lot of emotions when filling out the text boxes and writing your application.
Answering this question can range from technical discipline with a factual description to the description of his personal inner feeling, or motive.
Therefore, you can easily get nervous, hoping to get it right.
Yes, that can be a challenge.
I need to think about this for a few days, because the planning of the project and the necessary preparation have to come with that as well.
Needing to answer these 5 questions is just right, to separate the chaff from the wheat.
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You makes some good points. Yes, it may take some time thinking about why you want to apply. But there are so many people who so nothing. At the very least, they could say: I want to roadtest this because (a) it will give me hands on experience for my final semester project or (b) it will give me experience for a project I am doing at work, or (c) I want to show my kid about technology or (d) I have done one project with it and want to gain more experience.
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From the issues that have been raised so far, I wonder how long it will be until one of those sentences appears verbatim in an application
It's nothing to do with me!
Ooh ... Keithley back with another DMM after the 2110 I reviewed five years ago Now that's exciting I wonder which one it is as I did get a chance to play with the DMM6500 and sampling multimeter at the ElectroneX trade show and it looked quite interesting with the full-touch LCD interface I guess I'll just have to wait and see , but if anything, the fact my 2110 has seen a bucketload of Li-Ion battery capacity tests (using the Dual Measure functionality), sampled data throughout a ~6500hr LED test for my PhD and is still helping me out with RoadTests today just goes to show how robust and reliable they are.
As for RoadTest applications - as long as users keep in mind the competitive nature of the process and the outlined "questions" that they will be judged on, it's beyond crystal clear. But I'm sure someone will still try to click that submit button ... thinking that it's up to chance. Just hopefully fewer.
Yes, yes, yes!! I'm waiting for that "ONE PIECE".
Well, yes, Roadtesters should think about having some responsibility.
I understand Randall well because it is hard to filter out only from letters, certain personalities (responsible / irresponsible).
Among other things, this is similar to a job interview when you have to hire a new employee.
The most important is that the suppliers / manufacturers of this device are satisfied.
They give this device to someone unknown, hoping / ok, profit-thinking / that their device is not just stolen.
If so, they may also have to provide further explanations in their own company.
Well, it's not easy.
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If the first one is their latest DMM - the DMM6500 then I have a comment - that device is a single thing that has really improved my engineering productivity and capability, and I've only started using it.
It seems so well executed and feature-rich, but I won't say more so that people can discover for themselves when they read the various reviews, because I know they will be interesting to read.
It is however missing a "thank the engineers who created me" button. That should be on the front panel : ) I bet they use this DMM themselves too in their day-to-day work..
Tektronix, Keithley, R & S, Hewlett Packard / Agilent / Keysight and so on ... they have been the world leaders for many decades.
That one button on more products would raise awareness of engineering so much.....
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As someone with a long history of doing road test I greatly applaud your changes and diligence at selecting the best people do conduct each road test.
I have long supported these types of changes to improve the return on investment to the vendors that provide the equipment.
We owe them a road test report for every item.
Thank you for helping to improve the element14 compliance for the vendors.
The whole community benefits from actually getting multiple road test reports for each device.
Anyone who has followed the RoadTests group is probably aware of my challenges in getting applicants to submit complete applications. My specific challenge is those writing "single-sentence" applications. Given the fact that recently, I have had a roadtest where over 50% were single-sentence applications, I decided to implement a new policy.
When you click to enroll in a roadtest, and the official application form opens up, you will see the following message in the comments section of the application form:
Stop and Read the Directions.
Please answer the following questions:
(a) What is your background?
(b) Why you are applying for this roadtest?
(c) What is your testing procedure?
(d) Give some examples of your element14 community participation
(e) Please verify that you can complete the testing and review writing on element14 within 60 days from the receipt of the product.
Single-sentence applications are incomplete and will not be eligible for winning the FREE product.
If you are still unsure of what to write about in a RoadTest application, then Click Here to view a short webinar on Writing RoadTest Applications
To submit a complete application, you must answer the five questions cited above. If you do not, your application is incomplete and will be ineligible for winning the FREE product.
The good news is that there will be better quality applications and likely few applicants overall, hence, less competition for winning.
RoadTest Program Manager