7 Replies Latest reply on Sep 24, 2019 8:39 AM by Autodesk Guest

    Part origin is an x rather than a +

    n4yg

      I am somewhat new to Eagle. I have a board which is finished except when I ran the cam processor and view the resulting board, one of the component outlines was missing.The board was fine otherwise. When I went back to edit the board and schematic to try to correct the problem, I found that the part origin was an X rather than a + and I could not select or do anything with the part on the board. I am using version 9.4.2

        • Re: Part origin is an x rather than a +
          Autodesk Guest

          On 9/18/2019 13:39, Joe Lunsford wrote:

          I am somewhat new to Eagle. I have a board which is finished except when I ran the cam processor and view the resulting board, one of the component outlines was missing.The board was fine otherwise. When I went back to edit the board and schematic to try to correct the problem, I found that the part origin was an X rather than a + and I could not select or do anything with the part on the board. I am using version 9.4.2

           

          You have locked the part. Do the unlock, then move..

           

           

          • Re: Part origin is an x rather than a +
            geralds

            Have you an image for us, so we can think with you what you mean. Thanks.

            • Re: Part origin is an x rather than a +
              n4yg

              Here are screen shots of the board and schematic. U6 is the part. Notice the X origin in the board view. At one point I could delete the part from the schematic, but now the origin is gone from the schematic. When I was able to delete it, I tried placing the part again, but the same thing happened.

               

                • Re: Part origin is an x rather than a +
                  geralds

                  This "X-Origin"  is a margin of this component, it is a target arrow, not a character.

                  This target arrow (looks like an X) shows that the component is "locked".

                  If this target arrow looks like a "plus" (0 degrees), the component is free for using, manipulating.

                   

                  In the PCB click on this component on this target arrow with the right mouse button, then select properties,

                  then you can mark this component in that checkbox as locked or unlocked.

                   

                  Component "unlocked":

                  comp unlocked

                   

                   

                  Component "locked":

                  comp locked

                   

                  So, if you delete it in the schematic and you place it back without saving then it can happen that this part comes back as was as before.

                   

                  Check what components you have locked or what is not.

                  Please read the manual what can you do with locked or unlocked components.

                  It is important to know what is a component, what is an electrical wire, what are drawings, and what are margins also target arrows as well.

                  Because you can pick up (drag, drop, and so on) the components or texts only on the targets, margins.

                  Except, you have switched on the "group" button, then you can do something in that selected area. Please read the manual.

                  The margins and the target arrows are just visible on the screen (also on a print out), not on the PCB-board.

                   

                  Best Regards

                  Gerald

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                    • Re: Part origin is an x rather than a +
                      n4yg

                      Great Gerald, that worked fine, but two problems remain with this part.

                      1. The + origin is still missing in the schematic view.

                      2. When processed with the cam processor, the view of the processed board does not have the part outline. You can see this in the image below.

                       

                      Sorry to be so much trouble.

                        • Re: Part origin is an x rather than a +
                          Autodesk Guest

                          Joe Lunsford wrote:

                          Great Gerald, that worked fine, but two problems remain with this part.

                          1. The + origin is still missing in the schematic view.

                           

                          if the other symbols have the origin cross, it's not the layer

                          visibility settings.

                           

                          try to place a copy of the part and observe where the part appears

                          relative to the mouse curser.

                          If either the symbol was designed off-center, or the symbol was place

                          off-center in the device, the origin might be (way) outside of the

                          part in the schematic.

                           

                           

                          2. When processed with the cam processor, the view of the processed board does not have the part outline. You can see this in the image below.

                           

                          might be the same with the package as describe for the symbol above.

                           

                          play around with the tPlace/tDocu layer settings. As far as I know,

                          only the tPlace layer is included in the default CAM jobs.

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                          Lorenz

                           

                        • Re: Part origin is an x rather than a +
                          n4yg

                          Well I executed the set Option.PartOriginsOn 1 command and that fixed that problem. Now if I can find out why the part outline does not show up in the cam processed board. Thanks so much for listening Geralds.

                           

                          Joe