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Re: need help to amplify microvolt AC.
shabazOct 29, 2020 10:20 AM (in response to salman34)
Hi Ahmed,
This need more info, what is the sensor (link to it's datasheet perhaps).
The next question (kind of obvious, but since I don't know the answer so I'm going to ask), have you asked the sensor manufacturer?
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Re: need help to amplify microvolt AC.
salman34 Oct 29, 2020 10:29 AM (in response to shabaz)actually its simple sine wave of 100 micro volts.
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Re: need help to amplify microvolt AC.
michaelkellettOct 29, 2020 11:39 AM (in response to salman34)
@ salman34
You really do need to give us more information to get help.
So, the waveform is a sine wave, is 100uV RMS, pk=pk, pk or what ?
What is the frequency range ?
What signal to noise ratio do you need ?
Why not tell us what sensor you are using, it will make it much easier to help you.
MK
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Re: need help to amplify microvolt AC.
dougwOct 29, 2020 10:21 AM (in response to salman34)
What frequency is the signal?
You will need a very low noise amplifier, probably more than one stage.
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Re: need help to amplify microvolt AC.
salman34 Oct 29, 2020 10:29 AM (in response to dougw)any suggestion of ac micro volt amplification ic.?
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Re: need help to amplify microvolt AC.
dougwOct 29, 2020 2:53 PM (in response to salman34)
OP27 is about the lowest noise op-amp I have used.
I have used them to amplify 1 microvolt signals.
You need to be very careful with all aspects of your design to keep noise in the signal below 1 microvolt. Especially the power supply.
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Re: need help to amplify microvolt AC.
michaelkellettOct 29, 2020 10:23 AM (in response to salman34)
More information is needed.
What kind of sensor, what frequency range of signals ?
shabaz posted what might be a helpful article:
Building a Measurement Amplifier
MK
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Re: need help to amplify microvolt AC.
michaelkellettOct 29, 2020 10:24 AM (in response to michaelkellett)
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Re: need help to amplify microvolt AC.
shabazOct 29, 2020 10:27 AM (in response to michaelkellett)
Are we all on a tea break : ) I am.
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Re: need help to amplify microvolt AC.
michaelkellettOct 29, 2020 11:36 AM (in response to shabaz)
I am now - just got a new board with tiny Gowin FPGA powered up and working.
Coffee has definitely been earned.
MK
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Re: need help to amplify microvolt AC.
shabazNov 1, 2020 6:10 AM (in response to michaelkellett)
Awesome : ) It will be great to learn from your experience how easy or hard it is to work with Gowin tools and FPGAs.
I got a TFT display yesterday so will try to get that up-and-running soon!
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Re: need help to amplify microvolt AC.
Gordon Margulieux Oct 29, 2020 11:57 PM (in response to salman34)2 of 2 people found this helpfulI would be more interested in what issue(s) Ahmed has seen. If it is electrical noise pickup the input impedance may be too high or he may have to put a metal can around the circuit. If noise is being injected thru the power supply better filtering or separate supplies may be needed. If the signal you are amplifying is a single known frequency, adding a narrow bandpass filter may help. If the issue is temperature related, thermal insulation may help. Maybe vibration is a problem. To go from 100uV to 5V requires a gain of 50,000, so any thing that can cause a shift in the input can be a problem. In any case, it would be nice to know what problem he is trying to solve.
Stay Well, Gordon
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Re: need help to amplify microvolt AC.
shabazNov 1, 2020 7:23 AM (in response to salman34)
2 of 2 people found this helpfulOut of curiosity this is what I see with a 1kHz 100uVp-p signal and the single-stage x 200 amplifier from here:
Building a Measurement Amplifier
I had to string a lot of ferrites on the coax though. It will be nice to put a common-mode choke in the next iteration of the design, but not sure how to do that yet, since the BNC is connected to the enclosure. There are some plastic BNC connectors, so that could be worth experimenting with. I might put the land pattern for a choke on the board, but could be just jumpered across if a plastic connector is not available/used.
The problem-solver:
EDIT: Maybe I should put a land pattern for allowing a twisted-pair cable connector like XLR to be used optionally if BNC is not desired.
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Re: need help to amplify microvolt AC.
michaelkellettNov 1, 2020 8:41 AM (in response to shabaz)
1 of 1 people found this helpfulThat looks like about 10uV pk-pk noise, ie about 1.5uV RMS - which I think is about what your amp measured when you blogged it.
@ Ahmed, if that signal looks very noisy to you, don't despair - if the bandwidth is reduced the noise can be reduced as well.
MK
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Hi. I am student doing some research work , I am stuck in something. I want to convert microvolt AC that i get from some sensor , i want to amplify it upto 5V DC so i can make relation with input and gain.
i tried many circuit and modules but microvolt is very less for them to work. so i need help if anyone give any suggestion.